Re:Blowing Holes in Seymour Hersh's Pipe Dream
by layer8 on Friday February 10, 2023 @07:24PM
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Not agitated, but I believe it would be incredibly unwise for the US to have done this, in particular regarding the trust relationship with Germany. It’s also naive to think that who did it wouldn’t come out sooner or later. Those things have a way to not stay secret.
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Re:Blowing Holes in Seymour Hersh's Pipe Dream
by sschueller on Friday February 10, 2023 @07:56PM
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The US was tapping Angela Merkel's phone. IMO that is as bad for the relationship as blowing up the pipeline. I don't think there is much trust there, just a we have to work together because of NATO and the 50k US troops on Germany's soil.
Re:Blowing Holes in Seymour Hersh's Pipe Dream
by bananapub on Friday February 10, 2023 @08:57PM
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er...no, tapping every phone of value in the world is not as bad as secretly bombing something.
you can trivially know this by comparing the US's response to e.g. every hack china and russia have ever done leading to mean words and maybe economic sanctions, vs the US literally invading two countries - which had nothing to do with the person who did the bombings - after 11/9.
Re:Blowing Holes in Seymour Hersh's Pipe Dream
by cheese_van on Friday February 10, 2023 @09:58PM
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Poor trust in Germany of American intent has been ongoing for some time. The US has done much to repair it, although the quiet diplomacy has been more effective than the public diplomacy. The preservation of this trust, despite what conspiracy seekers believe, would strongly militate against this event - its benefit would in no way be perceived in USG circles as greater than the cost.