Re:Theory of Mind May Have Spontaneously Emerged in Large La...
by mietek on Thursday February 09, 2023 @05:32PM
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I don’t think you know whether I have a mind or not.
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Re:Theory of Mind May Have Spontaneously Emerged in Large La...
by pdonis on Thursday February 09, 2023 @05:39PM
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If you object to the term "mind", just leave it out and read "brain and mind" as just "brain". I'm a physicalist so I don't think the mind is something separate from the brain anyway, so it's all the same to me.
Re:Theory of Mind May Have Spontaneously Emerged in Large La...
by mietek on Thursday February 09, 2023 @05:42PM
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I don’t object to “mind”, but it’s famously unprovable whether other beings we presume to be conscious actually experience internal mental states. See also: qualia, p-zombies, the hard problem of consciousness.
Re:Theory of Mind May Have Spontaneously Emerged in Large La...
by pdonis on Thursday February 09, 2023 @05:49PM
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> it’s famously unprovable whether other beings we presume to be conscious actually experience internal mental states
It's also famously unprovable that there is not an invisible dragon in my garage that cannot be detected by any means whatever, to use Carl Sagan's example. That doesn't mean such an idea is worth discussing or including in your thought processes.
Re:Theory of Mind May Have Spontaneously Emerged in Large La...
by canniballectern on Thursday February 09, 2023 @05:51PM
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If a jellyfish was able to have a conversation with you where it credibly described what it's like to be conscious, would you reject it because it doesn't have a brain and therefore cannot have a mind in the same sense as you?