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Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by nr2x on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @11:53PM (#34719906)
Google makes fuck all revenue from Drive, it never mattered. EVERYTHING at Google, most notably the cash fire that is Cloud, is funded by Search. This is the first time that is in danger and over 25 years they never came up with a fallback plan. This is an unmitigated disaster and purely the result of mismanagement.
Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by rybosome on Thursday February 09, 2023 @01:38AM (#34720469)
Cloud operating losses have dropped substantially YoY, and revenue has risen steadily. It is at most a few years from profitability.
Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by oblio on Thursday February 09, 2023 @02:39AM (#34720867)
We're in a recession. It's quite likely cloud falls into a race to the bottom.

The "at most a few years from profitability" after a period of what, 15 boom years?, doesn't sound that great as the 3rd place contender.

Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by somethoughts on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:52AM (#34721324)
Agreed.

Also the comparison is between Google versus Dropbox (the underdog David that's analogous to OpenAI), not Google versus Amazon or even Google versus Microsoft.

Google is 51% of office productivity software market versus Microsoft. Microsoft is at 47%, Dropbox isn't even listed. [1]

Dropbox has a decent share of the personal cloud storage market but has really failed to expand beyond that vertical or become significantly profitable. [2]

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/983299/worldwide-market-...

[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1328893/global-file-shar...

Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by nr2x on Thursday February 09, 2023 @10:57AM (#34725868)
The point is Cloud is still 100% subsidized by Search, and if Search loses even 5% of market share in the next 12 mo it is a disaster as GCP cannot fill the gap as they are still losing money. The velocity at which they are losing money is immaterial to the fact they are not nearly ready to plug a hole if Bing take share.
Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by riku_iki on Thursday February 09, 2023 @12:46PM (#34727980)
I think cloud's net revenue loss was very small last Q they reported. They may cut on some personal and services and become profitable if decide so.
Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by nerpderp82 on Thursday February 09, 2023 @03:10PM (#34730612)
Google has over 165B in cash on hand. Nothing is that dire.
Re:Is Google’s 20-year search dominance about to end? by nr2x on Thursday February 09, 2023 @07:25PM (#34733828)
Nobody got fired for choosing IBM either.