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Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by t0bia_s on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:10PM (#34716976)
As someone who use Adobe profesionally, I cannot leave Windows.

It frustrate me.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by Zurrrrr on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:18PM (#34717098)
If you own your device, no reason you HAVE to be tied to Adobe, it's just about compromise.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by smeagull on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:26PM (#34717203)
Well if you're using Adobe, then you don't care about telemetry or spyware, so it's not a problem.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by BizarreByte on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @07:36PM (#34717981)
I don’t think that’s fair to say that if one is using it professionally. If it puts food on the table you just have to grin and bear the things you don’t like.

It’s not realistic to give up a tool that makes you money over personal feelings about telemetry and the like.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by exodust on Thursday February 09, 2023 @12:57AM (#34720259)
It's not about giving up a tool, it's about swapping it for a different tool. Creating a "food on table" dependency with Adobe is what's unrealistic.
Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by t0bia_s on Thursday February 09, 2023 @04:45AM (#34721721)
I'm profesionall freelance artist, with daily usages of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere, After Effects, Audition and Lightroom.

Yes, it literally brings food to my family on table.

No, there is no competition if you need compatible project between different programs (dynamic link). After Effects don't have alternative at all.

No, Adobe wont work on linux. MacOS is not alternative for Win in term of privacy. And usually overpriced if you need power.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by exodust on Thursday February 09, 2023 @08:20PM (#34734357)
> literally brings food

It literally doesn't.

> I'm profesionall freelance artist

Artists shouldn't be tied to brands and products. Artists get shit done using tools they have available.

All you've done is list 7 Adobe products, claiming "no competition", no choice but to subscribe to Adobe. The bottom line is you make things for clients: videos, illustrations etc. If Adobe Cloud crashed tomorrow, would you remove your clothes and wander the streets in despair? Crying and begging for food? No. You'd get the job done using other tools. Because you're an Artist, you're resourceful.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by t0bia_s on Friday February 10, 2023 @04:46AM (#34737592)
"Artists get shit done using tools they have available." Agree. Those are tools named from Adobe, not the only I use.

"If Adobe Cloud crashed tomorrow, would you remove your clothes and wander the streets in despair?" If your ISP or power has blackout, would you?

"Because you're an Artist, you're resourceful." Also pragmatic. I use tools to get things done faster. Adobe has top notch software developed over decade by payed professionals, with millions of investment. I strongly disagree with their terms of use (no option to work offline is ridiculous), but as you said. Artist are resourceful.

It doesn't change anything on fact that I would like to abandon Windows completely and stick with linux.

Re:Windows 11: a spyware machine out of users' control by drunkenmagician on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:43PM (#34719117)
Adobe products (almost all I thought) run on macOS. Why can you not move? 3rd party add-ons / extensions?