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Not to mention resorting to numerous disingenuous whataboutisms.
See that's just hard for me to understand. At every point it seems to get in the way. Someone else in this thread made a list of the UI behaviors that they thought were odd, e.g. pressing enter on a file results in a prompt to rename it.
I think it's hard to measure and compare UI stuff though, because we become so biased by what we're used and what we find easiest or most comfortable to use.
You came out swinging with bs accusations of racism, and tons of insults, clearly breaking the HN guidelines numerous times because of your own asinine assumptions.
Why should I bother to put in effort to converse with you, when you are going out of your way to misconstrue and insult, and coming from a place of extreme defensiveness and patriotism?
If you had not tainted this entire thread, I would have loved to have a productive discussion, and if I'm wrong be corrected and learn something.
But how is that possible now after your tirades and insults? As you even said you took what I said emotional and became very heated. Worst case, I might be ignorant, but I'm not racist or hateful against people of any race or country, and you said an awful lot of crappy things, much worse than anything I've said.
No it doesn't. It just makes you incredibly insecure.
It's not more complicated than that.
@philonoist did that right out the gate in this article with no evidence or support. It's their goto thing.
> India, poor as it may be, has brought some wonders into the world of science, particularly space missions, at times launching missions that achieve similar results with orders of magnitude lower costs with truly innovative ways.
I would never doubt that or claim otherwise.
> Please don’t categorise people, science and innovation based on where it comes from.
What comment did I make that indicates that is what I am doing? I don't, and would not do that.
No, and I don't need to be. It's obvious. As is the way you are distorting everything else in your reply here.
Besides, the irony and hypocrisy of you saying things like
> I just think your worldview is informed by a hyperbolic narrative than actual facts.
When you asked if I was a shrink for simply observing how (very obviously) your comments were coming from an emotional rather than a rational place.
It's clear you are not engaging in good faith but just being defensive, and I have no time for such one-sided discussions. In fact, all of your replies seem downright petty, like you're throwing rocks at me because you don't like what I said, rather than you're interested in having a civil debate.
I'm sure you'll reply again, however I have no interest in replying further, because it clearly isn't a good faith discussion interested in objective facts and truths - anything critical of India is just going to be dismissed, denied or whataboutismed - that's if my reply isn't just mass flagged out of spite to start with.
Best of luck to you.
> People refuted your assertion with facts and figures.
No, they didn't. And I could provide a lot more links and provide a much mroe compelling argument, but despite your beliefs, I'm not trying to make India look bad and have nothing against India. Besides, my posts would just get mass downvoted no matter their credibility.
> So, you are not going to acknowledge your incorrect assumptions?
I made none, rather it's you and others making incorrect assumptions and jumpting to be defensive.
> Your statement was not even remotely neutral. Please point out these untruths.
And why would I bother to engage you in actual debate when you're being so clearly biased and emotional thorughout the thread?
> So, let's give up the petty tribalism, shut down all the other space programs and redirect all that funding to ISRO.
I don't really agree with that, but I am definitely in support or a global combined space program instead of wasted resources.
> And I would have appreciated an informed and well thought out comment instead of a puerile low effort one. Yet here we are.
That's ironic, given the low quality and guidelines violating nature of your posts. My initial comment could have led to productive discussion, but hurt feelings prevented that.
No, I never said that. I didn't even imply it. You just decided to 'hear' that and then strike back.
It's so incredibly ironic that you are accusing me of having a closed mind in this thread.
There is no reason for you to have taken my comment so personally, and acted like I have insulted you and your family.
I made a point and stated an opinion. I'm not racist, or an 'ignorant', much as you wish that were the case.
My comment isn't against the guidelines, even if you disagree with it. You're the only one in this thread who has violated the guidelines.
My comment isn't specific to India. I maintain that any country with some of the problems India has should not be putting money into a space program to compete with superpowers (i.e. for clout), that money could absolutely be spent better in other ways.
Rather than engage with me productively, you decided to take a lot of personal offense and throw around insults to retaliate against a perceived sleight.
If you had said why you disagree, stuck to facts, and had a productive discussion instead of a tantrum, then you may have resulted in educating and changing not only my mind, but all the others that you complain about.
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Guess I'll edit in my other reply since I can't comment due to all the false flagging of my comments...
> Fine, keep him on HN, but allow me to appeal to @dang on the site's own guidelines at least. There can be reprieve but not reproach.
There is no reason for you to have taken my comment so personally, and acted like I have insulted you and your family.
I made a point and stated an opinion. I'm not racist, or an 'ignorant', much as you wish that were the case.
My comment isn't against the guidelines, even if you disagree with it. You're the only one in this thread who has violated the guidelines.
My comment isn't specific to India. I maintain that any country with some of the problems India has should not be putting money into a space program to compete with superpowers (i.e. for clout), that money could absolutely be spent better in other ways.
Rather than engage with me productively, you decided to take a lot of personal offense and throw around insults to retaliate against a perceived sleight.
If you had said why you disagree, stuck to facts, and had a productive discussion instead of a tantrum, then you may have resulted in educating and changing not only my mind, but all the others that you complain about.
But then, I want us to work towards a future where we have some sort of common space program, rather than numerous different countries all wasting money reinventing wheels for clout instead of just working together.
Searching 'book banning' on news.google.com still returns a lot of results with towns still doing it.
I think what I was actually thinking of though, was I think Mississippi (I think) deciding to defund all libraries in retaliation for the library suing over book bans.
That aside, these stats are not surprising. Anyone from outside the US knows just how bad the education system is within. With red states outright banning books and knowledge, that number may just continue to climb.
That's not a bad analogy, except many countries won't let you in if you have a felony on your record. That isn't that unusual.
Singapore is going to arrest people for breaking no rule in their home country, and not for breaking any rules within the country, but simply for showing up at the door because you smoked weed before the 21 hour flight?
I mean, you're right I won't go because I think it's a crappy country, but that doesn't mean I still can't disprove I want to work towards a world where no country has shitty laws like that..
And sure, to some extent Mac has a different paradigm, and if you are used to it it won't seem strange.
But on top of all of that, objectively, the mac UI is still incredibly limiting and frustrating in ways that no other DE is, even with being familiar with it.
Besides, they are not saying anything that any other reputable source isn't also saying.
I'm not dictating, I'm disaproving.
Sovereign nations can indeed have whatever laws they want, and I don't have to go there but I can continue to speak out against bad and unjust laws as I see it.
> I find your stance hyperbolic considering lots of countries still criminalize suicide.
If that's true, that's ignorance on my part.
I can concede that maybe I have not expressed myself well or articulated my points clearly. Allow me to try and clarify.
> GDPR is unique, because it exerts extraterritorial jurisdiction over servers whenever EU citizens are affected.
It's not simply the extraterritorial jurisdiction, it's that combined with how far-reaching and broad the GDPR is. The other examples people have given were either a seizure after an act was committed via a court order, or far more narrow in scope.
> However, you won't relent
Regarding COPPA, I provided references showing that a) the legislation itself does not assert extraterritorial jurisdiction in the way the GDPR does, b) that the wiki claims the FTC asserts extraterritorial jurisdiction but I can find no actual link to the FTC asserting that, and c) that legal scholars and the legal community seems to be of the opinion that COPPA is only applies domestically.
Why should I relent when those points show that COPPA is indeed quite different from GDPR? What's the flaw in my reasoning here?
> But you never ask yourself WHY ByteDance has a US presence in the first place? We could ask similar questions: Why does Facebook have a EU presence (on Ireland), why does Google?
But that's the point! The US sued someone via COPPA when they had a US presence, and it was in a US court. There was nothing extraterritorial about it!
GDPR is saying they could take action against one lone Chinese person operating a small business from home within China, someone who has never even left China, just because they collected data on someone in France.
That's frankly ridiculous, and I maintain, unprecedented.
Instead of running an OS with a ton of little tools and hacks, why not just run on that lets you configure it how you want?
I'll take an equivalent thinbook at a third of the price and put any number of stable and lightweight DEs on it instead.