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Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by ok_dad on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:35PM (#34712580)
> If we want a healthier society, we need to take a step back and give teenagers a chance to actually live life.

We (American here) need to take a step back and let everyone enjoy life. That means providing healthcare, food, and shelter to every single person so that they can live their life and work in a non-anxiety-inducing way. Every therapist I've talked to in the past few years has told me that they think the number one thing that would reduce their workload is if people weren't so stressed about paying for the most basic things for their family. Most of the people they see would still have issues they need to deal with, but wouldn't be on the precipice of suicide and taking loads of pills. That's an anecdote, but to me it's clear that the "hustle culture" and lack of social support have combined in the USA to make things very hard for the average American. This applies to kids directly, too, because that hustle has to start pre-college!

Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by 1234letshaveatw on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:43PM (#34712704)
right, teen kids are so worried about healthcare costs! Gimmie a break, your comment has nothing to do with the article, it's low effort and a better fit for reddit
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by romeoblade on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:07PM (#34713095)
I'm not yet 40 but I am a male single parent. With the closest family being 1300 miles away. Last year between March-May my health deteriorated so bad that I went from being fine to walking with a cane in less than 2 months. Once finally diagnosed, I went from diagnoses to major surgery in less than 12 days.

My daughter (just turned 16), picked up the slack as I become pretty much bed ridden.

I can attest that this had a very destermental effect on her health. Not only having to manage the house, school, etc but also without any support from anyone. At the same time watching me go from someone who use to be able to squat 500lbs to someone who couldn't be trusted to wash dishes without breaking a few because I had lost all feeling, balance, and depth perception.

Go one night, hearing your daughter sob in her room because she doesn't want you to see she's hurting and scared from what YOU are going through and then come back and comment because right now you are a very ignorant human to think it doesn't. Especially since see already lost one parent.

Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by 1234letshaveatw on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:17PM (#34713298)
I am sorry that you (and your daughter) went through that. Would socialized medicine in the US have prevented your health issue?
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by shard on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:21PM (#34717130)
That is a good question, although it is tangential as even with socialized medicine, these kind of issues happen. People get seriously ill and die every day, regardless of the amount of care they receive.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by jquery on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:31PM (#34718517)
I think his point was that free health care would've prevented his daughter's health issues.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by swader999 on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @11:10PM (#34719647)
I think you identified something here. Kids are very capable, often more than us and if we let them, they can be just like adults. But we really do need them to just be kids and not carry all our burdens. I really hope you two get a break.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by mrguyorama on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:17PM (#34713305)
I was being affected by household money problems when I was 8. That shit rubs off on your kids no matter what.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by lazyasciiart on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:53PM (#34712862)
Teen kids are worried about having enough to eat. https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/83971/...
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by tasspeed on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:45PM (#34712737)
you're ignorant or extremely privileged if you think kids dont worry. have you ever had a parent be ill and your family has no money for their treatment?
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by 1234letshaveatw on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:53PM (#34712866)
OK, you got me. A lack of socialized everything that started in 2012 is the cause of the teen mental illness epidemic. Get out and vote everyone!!!
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by tasspeed on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:03PM (#34713018)
are you an idiot? its not a "lack of socialized everything that started in 2012". Things have never been socialized in America and as wealth is hoarded more and more by the 1%, plus the effects of the 2008 recession, the economic situation for most Americans is becoming cut throat with a lack of socialized resources. As a result, parents struggle, which makes their kids struggle. Kids have little freedom nowadays because of how suburban + capitalist America has evolved to kill communities.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by 1234letshaveatw on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:18PM (#34713309)
Are you even commenting on the article moron?
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by NateEag on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:00PM (#34715063)
OP is sarcastically pointing out that since the US has never had socialized health care, that cannot be the explanation for a sudden uptick in mental health issues circa 2012.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by commandlinefan on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:30PM (#34715493)
Well, in fairness, OP is right: everybody would be under a lot less stress if all of their needs were met for the entirety of their lives with no expectation to ever contribute anything. He's missing the realization that somebody has to contribute something to meet the needs of all the people whose needs are being met regardless of their contribution, which is why communism always fails in practice.
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by nocoolnametom on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @05:35PM (#34716509)
Everybody would be under a lot less stress if [a basic level] of their needs were met [to avoid at the very least bankruptcy and preventable life-long injury or even death] for the entirety of their lives with no expectation to ever contribute anything. He's missing the realization that [everyone] has to contribute something [via progressive taxation] to meet the [basic level of] needs of all the people whose [basic level of] needs are being met regardless of their contribution, which is why [every other industrialized nation, even with failures and economic issues in parts of their systems, is able to provide at least this basic level for their citizens, except for the US because of for-profit healthcare lobbyists].
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by tickerticker on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:54PM (#34718738)
The U.K.’s Government-Run Healthcare Service Is in Crisis, from the WSJ, 2.6.23
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by snozolli on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:31PM (#34715503)
teen kids are so worried about healthcare costs!

a better fit for reddit

Funny you should say that, since Reddit is packed with teens and the front page subs are pretty full of anxiety over healthcare and the environment.

Teens today are absolutely flooded with horror stories that they have zero authority or meaningful ability to change.

Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by CatWChainsaw on Thursday February 09, 2023 @09:08PM (#34734781)
Teen kids are worried about inheriting a dying planet. But something something bootstraps, right?
Re:The Teen Mental Illness Epidemic Began Around 2012 by tasspeed on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @01:43PM (#34712707)
I agree wholeheartedly. I was working a part time job in highschool to pay for my gas and other expenses, when I should have been doing kid things. Also as an early teenager I turned to online communities because there was no other way to interact with irl friends outside of school. It was too dangerous to ride a bike to a friends house (cars), I couldn't drive, and my parents were always working so they couldn't give me rides. I still needed some sort of social interaction though, so of course I turned to the internet.