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Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by kelnos on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:38AM (#34705268)
Or hell, they could have taken the even-safer option and informed ATC they were going to hold until FedEx landed.

Regardless, I think it's too early to lay definitive blame until the NTSB report comes out.

Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by cjrp on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @06:01AM (#34706549)
Commercial pressures. Holding for Fedex would have added a few mins, maybe lost them their place in the queue, etc. It's not a reason to act unsafely, but it is a factor.
Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by ninjagoo on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:01AM (#34708096)
> Commercial pressures. Holding for Fedex would have added a few mins

They spent a minute extra before starting their takeoff roll; it wouldn't have hurt to wait an additional 5 minutes. Commercial flights build in a generous margin for ground ops these days. I doubt this was a factor in this specific case.

> maybe lost them their place in the queue, etc.

They were at the runway already, there's no way for them to have lost their place in the queue for that runway 18L [1].

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/AUSFAA.p...

Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by cjrp on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @10:19AM (#34709217)
> They were at the runway already, there's no way for them to have lost their place in the queue for that runway 18L [1].

Sure there is, enter the runway at bravo, right turn foxtrot, left on alpha and join the conga line. Happens all the time at places like JFK (admittedly Austin is not JFK).

Re:Why the Austin airport situation was so dangerous by ninjagoo on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @12:31PM (#34711501)
>> They were at the runway already, there's no way for them to have lost their place in the queue for that runway 18L [1].

> Sure there is, enter the runway at bravo, right turn foxtrot, left on alpha and join the conga line. Happens all the time at places like JFK (admittedly Austin is not JFK).

This routing appears to require the SouthWest aircraft to enter the active runway with FedEx Heavy on Final to that end, presumably the problem we're trying to avoid ...

In both cases, SW would be well within their rights to say "unable to comply".