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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by donkey-hotei on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:48PM (#34703454)
There is M1 and there is M2, and then there's Director. There's no level 6+ on the management track. I'll disagree with this statement by saying that I think the step function in skills between managing people and managing people who manage people is huge. There are larger gaps between M1 -> M2 -> D than IC6 -> IC7 -> IC8...

but, I think the answer depends. If you are a really strong individual contributor, I presume getting an IC promotion is easier. If you are just decent, getting an IC7+ promotion seems incredibly challenging because IC7 requires an very high level of competence. If you are just decent as a manager, you can get luckier.

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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by loeg on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:00PM (#34703535)
> There is M1 and there is M2, and then there's Director. There's no level 6+ on the management track.

M1 corresponds to the same pay band as IC6 and M2 corresponds to IC7. D1 corresponds to IC8. (By level 6, I am referring to IC6 / M1.)

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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by jonathankoren on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:31PM (#34703763)
I think you’re off by one. M1 is not an IC6.
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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by zdyn5 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:56PM (#34703939)
M1 is indeed the same level as IC6 at Meta
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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by runnr_az on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:44PM (#34703857)
It me. I’m a good Dev but was never going to be one of the greats. Making the jump to manager seemed like the next logical step… and in sone ways it has been, but it’s a very different job. (Now that I evaluate other people’s dev work, I was actually a lot better than I thought I was)
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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by grogenaut on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:59PM (#34703954)
I've noticed that many of the best devs are constantly worried about their output and quality and the worst not worried at all. This is as a Sr. IC who gets pulled in to other teams on the regular.
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