Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributors or Leave

Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by antipaul on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:04PM (#34703152)

Is it possible to do both?

I hear senior VPs like Craig Federighi, Jeff Dean, and others, still write code (maybe 1 day a week but still), but also call the big shots

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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by khazhoux on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:26PM (#34703731)

I don't know about Jeff, but Craig runs an org with tens of thousands of engineers. If he were writing code, it'd be a waste of time.

(and Craig doesn't waste his time)

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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by sidibe on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:48AM (#34705332)

Jeff Dean also eventually managed a huge org (Sanjay Ghemawat managed to avoid this)

It's not a waste of time if it makes them more effective at making decisions, gives them ideas, or keeps them abreast of what is actually going on.

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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by khazhoux on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @02:54AM (#34705375)

Ideas, staying sharp, keeping up with swift and pytorch etc… sure, absolutely useful to code on weekends or a bit here and there.

What I meant what that there’s literal zero way someone can be an SVP and still perform any actual IC work.

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Re:Meta to Ask Many Managers to Become Individual Contributo... by captainredbeard on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @09:13AM (#34708242)

Craig is engaged at the code level but doesn’t contribute code to products

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