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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @11:34AM (#34694928)
A collection of openly hostile remarks you've made in this thread:

> shut the fuck up and take in the knowledge.

> You get called racist for saying racist things; if you don’t like it, stop doing it

> I really cannot overemphasize how detrimental to your argument what you just wrote is to any thinking human being.

> Blindly claiming all research, from literally every institution in the world, is both inaccurate and rigged somehow on a widely studied topic, is an insane claim only made when you've given up on the entire concept of rationality.

(note that the parent never made this claim, you're falsely imputing it on him)

> You really would rather throw all of science under the bus before you let black people get an even footing in society, wouldn't you? Incredible.

I suspect these comments likely violate even a very narrow reading of the site guidelines. Your account is relatively new, so maybe you aren't aware but you might want to take a look before mods intervene (guidelines are linked at the bottom of the page).

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by esporx on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @11:44AM (#34695073)
(same person, different account, HN is trying to throttle me)

None of those lines are in any way openly hostile, unless you fall into the worst category of what I wrote, which is the racist who is trying to find any excuse to remove black people from the conversation.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:00PM (#34695348)
You're welcome to litigate your comments with the moderators, I'm just giving you a friendly heads-up that I don't think the mods will agree with you (and the fact that you've been throttled suggests you've probably been warned by the mods before). I'm also not sure they'll take kindly to creating throwaway accounts for the purpose of circumventing the rate limit, but I'll let them speak for themselves.
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by abbiebe89 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:13PM (#34695537)
(still same person, let's keep it rolling)

I don't care if dang agrees/disagrees in this case. This is too important, and the voices spouting bigotry on this site need to be challenged, even if it's wildly unpopular.

In the past, the bans came from simulating activity on the discussion, which I have made clear this time that all accounts roll up to one person.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:19PM (#34695647)
Criticizing DEI programs (as the parent was clearly doing) isn't "spouting bigotry". You can certainly challenge bigotry on this site without violating the site guidelines (and "challenging bigotry" is hardly unpopular here).
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by abbiebe89 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:26PM (#34695734)
Criticizing the concept of DEI is spouting bigotry, and it's anti-fact.

And no, you cannot support the concept of DEI and remain on this site without resorting to the tricks I've had to. I'm not perfect, but this site has shown its ugly side these past few days, as a number of anti-DEI posts have been getting traction.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:50PM (#34698374)
> Criticizing the concept of DEI is spouting bigotry, and it's anti-fact.

Not at all. For example, I believe that selecting for viewpoint diversity directly is a better way to achieve viewpoint diversity than via DEI. Moreover, I firmly reject that race or gender confer any special abilities (and frankly this gets me into more hot water with DEI advocates than anyone else). These two positions aren't in conflict in any way. This example constitutes incontrovertible proof that "criticizing the concept of DEI is spouting bigotry" is incorrect.

> And no, you cannot support the concept of DEI and remain on this site without resorting to the tricks I've had to.

This is factually incorrect as well. I debate with lots of people who argue vocally for DEI (even strongly implying personal attacks) who have been on this site for a long time (and have lots of karma!). They just stay within the guidelines or at least they don't flout them as egregiously as you seem to be doing.