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Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by abbiebe89 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:13PM (#34695537)
(still same person, let's keep it rolling)

I don't care if dang agrees/disagrees in this case. This is too important, and the voices spouting bigotry on this site need to be challenged, even if it's wildly unpopular.

In the past, the bans came from simulating activity on the discussion, which I have made clear this time that all accounts roll up to one person.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:19PM (#34695647)
Criticizing DEI programs (as the parent was clearly doing) isn't "spouting bigotry". You can certainly challenge bigotry on this site without violating the site guidelines (and "challenging bigotry" is hardly unpopular here).
Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by abbiebe89 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:26PM (#34695734)
Criticizing the concept of DEI is spouting bigotry, and it's anti-fact.

And no, you cannot support the concept of DEI and remain on this site without resorting to the tricks I've had to. I'm not perfect, but this site has shown its ugly side these past few days, as a number of anti-DEI posts have been getting traction.

Re:Tell HN: DEI initiatives undermine the self esteem of PoC... by throwaway894345 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @02:50PM (#34698374)
> Criticizing the concept of DEI is spouting bigotry, and it's anti-fact.

Not at all. For example, I believe that selecting for viewpoint diversity directly is a better way to achieve viewpoint diversity than via DEI. Moreover, I firmly reject that race or gender confer any special abilities (and frankly this gets me into more hot water with DEI advocates than anyone else). These two positions aren't in conflict in any way. This example constitutes incontrovertible proof that "criticizing the concept of DEI is spouting bigotry" is incorrect.

> And no, you cannot support the concept of DEI and remain on this site without resorting to the tricks I've had to.

This is factually incorrect as well. I debate with lots of people who argue vocally for DEI (even strongly implying personal attacks) who have been on this site for a long time (and have lots of karma!). They just stay within the guidelines or at least they don't flout them as egregiously as you seem to be doing.