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Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by grishka on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:04AM (#34690422)
People would 100% be jailbreaking this stuff.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by urbandw311er on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:22AM (#34690532)
Or just physically cutting open the seat and bypassing the switch
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by prox on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:27AM (#34690568)
Unless it has an AI, “you have violated the integrity of this vehicle, starting protocols have been disabled. Please contact your local representative.”
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by yootyootr on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:15AM (#34690895)
"drink a verification can to continue"
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by goodpoint on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @07:00AM (#34691604)
A microcontroller is probably enough, no need to throw in the big AI word.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by Idiot_in_Vain on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:56AM (#34690771)
Very few people. What percentage of iPhone users have their phones jailbroken? 0.0001%

Almost no one will do it - it's a lot of work, loss of warranty, loss of small conveniences.

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by withinboredom on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:57AM (#34691186)
I used to always jailbreak my iphone (mostly because I was one of the first owners and had been doing that since it was possible). The last time I did it, the apps were just too sketchy and wanted too much permissions. I didn't really see the value in it. Maybe things are better these days, but I haven't checked in the last 6-7 years.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by rationalist on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:45AM (#34692619)
> loss of warranty

In the U.S., this is not true. If Apple claims so, they are violating the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by MichaelZuo on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:24AM (#34693123)
Can you refer to the specific section that prevents it?
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by rationalist on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:56PM (#34701083)
I'm not an expert at legalese or have access to LexisNexis, but after a quick Google search, I think this is it:

> a warrantor cannot, as a matter of law, avoid liability under a written warranty where a defect is unrelated to the use by a consumer of “unauthorized” articles or service.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2018-title16-vol1/xm...

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by yootyootr on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:15AM (#34690887)
your warranty is now void

your resale value is now zero

your service options have been limited to third party workshops only

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by rationalist on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:46AM (#34692632)
> loss of warranty

In the U.S., this is not true. If the manufacturer claims so, they are violating the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by yootyootr on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @11:26AM (#34694798)
You're telling me that I can go to the U.S. and purchase a car, perform unauthorised modifications to its systems and the manufacturer still has to honour the warranty? That sounds excellent!
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by rationalist on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @01:49PM (#34697197)
As long as what you do doesn't cause the damage that you want them to repair under the warranty. They still have to honor the warranty for the unaffected systems.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by goodpoint on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @06:59AM (#34691598)
...and after a car accident you get all the blame and other legal consequences for having tampered with your car.
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by mardifoufs on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @08:45AM (#34692614)
There is oddly little ECU/BSI/onboard computer hacking (beyond flashing a tune, mostly to change engine specific settings). Or maybe there is, but I never managed to find an active community that goes beyond ecu tunes. I guess it's due to how fragmented the hardware is (even if most auto manufacturers usually source the components and systems from the same vendors).
Re:HP bricking printers remotely if the client's credit card... by justaman on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:05AM (#34692860)
Cars are too expensive to void the warranty. But I agree in spirit.