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Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by xamuel on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:25PM (#34698953)
In addition to her writings, von Bingen was also an interesting musical composer. There's a learning curve when you listen to her music because it's so incredibly stripped down. But once you get past that, it can be mind-altering. Performances are available on YouTube and elsewhere.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by User23 on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @03:29PM (#34699031)
And then there's her bardcore admirer Hildegard von Blingin'[1], who does a bunch of entertaining covers of pop songs in a medieval style.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/c/Hildegardvonblingin/videos

Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by LeifCarrotson on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:53PM (#34703486)
I was familiar with the YouTube channel, but unaware of the original, which made these comments and this article rather confusing...
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by welcome_dragon on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:53PM (#34701039)
Her music is incredibly beautiful especially "Chants for the Feast of Saint Ursula"
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by WalterBright on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:07PM (#34699667)
I should invent my own language, too.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by cpach on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:21PM (#34699861)
Another one, you mean? (:
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by themadturk on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:37PM (#34700124)
Hildegard is one of the earliest, if not the earliest, composers we can specifically associate with music she wrote.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by anyfoo on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:50PM (#34700292)
I remember, in the days without Internet, only 5 TV channels which weren't always fun, and sub-freezing temperatures in winter (leading to less desire to go outside with friends then), pass-times like "invent your own language" by making up words were much more common.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by yamtaddle on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @04:56PM (#34700373)
I like to say that the NES I had growing up (didn't get anything better until college, just had the NES through the SNES and N64 generations) was the ideal gaming console for kids: good enough to be fun, not good enough that you wouldn't get bored (or angry, LOL) and go ride bikes after a couple hours even if no-one forced you to.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by anyfoo on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:04PM (#34700434)
Heh, that is very true, too. For me it was more Game Boy than the NES, but to the same effect. Only Zelda: Link's Awakening gripped me for so long that I would spend entire days playing, but then there were still the times where we talked about it amongst friends outside.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by ttctciyf on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:12PM (#34700536)
As mentioned in Esoterica channel's video on her language[1] the only surviving text written in it is one of her songs, 'O orzchis Ecclesia'[2].

If you're interested, the video has some extra detail and scholarly rumination on her Lingua Ignota, and covers the song at around 9:28[3].

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8tpCOEWX6U

2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGCAOf9gjBM

3: https://youtu.be/l8tpCOEWX6U?t=568

Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by viksit on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @05:36PM (#34700824)
Also, I recently read The Greenest Branch: A Novel of Germany's First Female Physician - historical fiction about Hildegard, and written by someone who's researched into her quite extensively.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Greenest-Branch-Germanys-Physician-Hi...

Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by gregsadetsky on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @06:52PM (#34701769)
There was a fascinating article about her in the New Yorker about a week ago. [0]

Among many interesting references, I learned about Lingua Ignota -- "an experimental-pop project launched by the multidisciplinary artist Kristin Hayter, takes its name from Hildegard’s “unknown tongue” and channels her spirit through darkly vengeful chants that unfurl before walls of noise" (from the article)

Give it a listen, it's striking. [1]

[0] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/02/06/hildegard-of-b...

[1] https://linguaignota.bandcamp.com/track/the-order-of-spiritu...

Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by sk5t on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @10:37PM (#34703809)
Caligula is a fantastic album! And for something entirely different than that, check out Hildegard von Blingin'.
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by pianoben on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:35PM (#34703363)
One of my favorite composers! She wrote one of the, if not the earliest-known musical dramas, Ordo Virtutum[0], in which the Virtues are confronted by (and overcome) Satan. It's interesting for a number of reasons, but I especially like the touch that Satan himself can only speak, and cannot sing, being incapable of the divine.

She was truly ahead of her time!

[0]: the conclusion can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLpgj0s8o8s

Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by davidjade on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @09:55PM (#34703501)
There is a contemporary album of her music by Jocelyn Montgomery and produced by David Lynch.

Lux Vivens: the Music of Hildegard von Bingen

http://www.lynchnet.com/luxvivens/

Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by mestelan on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @04:12PM (#34715250)
Thanks. I also like this contemporary rendition by Heather Lee & Kim Cunio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cMtCHvwjAU
Re:The unknown language (and letters) of Hildegard von Binge... by NoZebra120vClip on Wednesday February 08, 2023 @08:51AM (#34707978)
Not explicitly mentioned in the article, but alluded by the sexually-suggestive title, is the fact that St. Hildegard is not solely recognised by the Catholic Church for her extraordinary sanctity and heroic virtues, she is also lionized and sexualized by the LGBT community as a historical Queer Icon, including favorable modern comparisons to the likes of Janelle Monáe.

https://queersaints.wordpress.com/3-saints-and-sinners-in-th...

https://going-medieval.com/2018/06/05/considering-bad-mother...

https://nihilobstat.info/2020/06/19/the-headache-of-st-hilde...