> What do you mean by 'isn't true'? It's at least real to some extent, without regard to how widespread it was.

The paper bag test doesn't make paper bags racist. It's a shade test.

> It's also the case that DEI groups want people to stop using 'brown bag lunch'.

I can't say that this hasn't happened. But if it is, this is one of the useless things that I take umbrage with in my original post.

Yes! Brown bags aren't racist, fraternities doing things like that were racist, at least as I see it.

I appreciate your response. I think I have been so repeatedly told that the ridiculous elements of DEI (and anti-racism) are the core of those two… movements? by their (ostensible) advocates that I now strongly associate them with silliness, though maybe it is in fact a case of Nazis and the swastika.

> I can't say that this hasn't happened. But if it has, this is one of the useless things that I take umbrage with in my original post.

I sat in a meeting where two young, white colleagues informed another colleague that the term was racist and we should come up with a different one. I tried to push back gently, but I am a white man and as such have no standing in the DEI hierarchy. So it was decided in this meeting full of white people that we would no longer use the term as it might cause offense to someone, maybe. And the two young engineers were satisfied they had made the world a slightly better place. I found it disturbing but don’t know what to do.