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Re:Sussman Explains the End of SICP by simplotek on Saturday February 04, 2023 @04:45PM (#34658700)
> You're decribing a "trade school", not MIT.

Nonsense. MIT engineers don't waste their time thinking about assembly instructions when they are tasked to design a distributed system. Competent engineers know how to switch to high-level concepts where they make sense.

Re:Sussman Explains the End of SICP by eps on Saturday February 04, 2023 @05:16PM (#34658986)
Heh, no, not nonsense.

The difference between trade schools and universities is in the depth of fundamentals. Always has been, still very much is.

Re:Sussman Explains the End of SICP by simplotek on Saturday February 04, 2023 @06:15PM (#34659462)
> The difference between trade schools and universities is in the depth of fundamentals.

It's definitely nonsense. You're failing to understand that today's "fundamentals" are not the parlour tricks you have in mind. You're in a better position to get ahead in providing software development services if you're able to put together a customized script that launches traefik, nginx, rabbitmq and a few nodejs services fully dockerized than if you're able to tell what opcodes your compiler generated out of C code.

Re:Sussman Explains the End of SICP by s-zeng on Sunday February 05, 2023 @01:00AM (#34662377)
But there are still highly specific tasks out there that require knowing stuff like what opcodes your compiler generated out of C code. Not every job or team is building a web app with nodejs and the like.
Re:Sussman Explains the End of SICP by effie on Sunday February 05, 2023 @01:31AM (#34662525)
Now you're describing sysadmin work. You don't need university for that. University is for getting a universe of exposure to ideas, to learn fundamentals to their depth. You need to study some fundamentals to be able to create those kinds of programs like nginx or rabbitmq.