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Re:Effective Altruism Has a Toxic Culture of Sexual Harassme... by OkayPhysicist on Friday February 03, 2023 @07:37PM (#34649954)
I can't imagine what benefits they were looking for in opioid use/abuse. Like, most drugs have a very distinct use, ranging from "directly beneficial" like using stimulants to increase productivity, to "socially useful" like using alcohol or MDMA as a social lubricant. Opiates don't really fall into any of those boxes. They're not mechanistically useful: If you want euphoria, there are better drugs like MDMA or ketamine. If you want to prematurely end your stimulant rush, booze, GHB, or ketamine will do that. Their primary use is as a coping mechanism, because they make you feel generically good regardless of your actual situation. And they're not really socially useful either, because unlike, say, cocaine, the overlap between "valuable people to have in my social network" and "people who shoot heroin" is practically non-existent.

I say this as someone who is very drug positive: Stay away from opiates, except for treating extreme, acute, physical pain.

Re:Effective Altruism Has a Toxic Culture of Sexual Harassme... by mynameisvlad on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:09PM (#34650185)
I mean, just like with a lot of drug abuse, it’s a method of escape. An extremely good way to make you forget about your troubles.

It wouldn’t have been anywhere near as big of a problem as it is if it wasn’t good at that.

Re:Effective Altruism Has a Toxic Culture of Sexual Harassme... by skissane on Saturday February 04, 2023 @09:17AM (#34654650)
> And they're not really socially useful either

A relative of mine-who used to be a heavy marijuana user-told me how he once tried heroin-and he really didn’t like how it made him behave socially-he says it made him smug, arrogant, and an asshole who felt superior to everyone else. I don’t know if that’s some kind of idiosyncratic reaction to it or a common one, but he told me it was enough to convince him to not try it again, and just stick to marijuana and alcohol, which didn’t have the same effect on him

Re:Effective Altruism Has a Toxic Culture of Sexual Harassme... by theragra on Tuesday February 07, 2023 @12:30PM (#34695820)
There are obvious benefits for using opiates for your life. You will be less agitated, calmer, kinder and will be able to tolerate unpleasant stuff better. I'm speaking also from experience.

Problem is, it always comes to not wanting normal undrugged life afterwards.