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Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by mynameisvlad on Friday February 03, 2023 @07:26PM (#34649870)
> Something being "clear" only matters, in so far as it is understood. That is my definition of "clear". It is only clear if it is understood, no matter what, or how clear you think it is. It is defined as unclear, if it is not understood, commonly.

> I mean, it was clear enough for the other OP to know they went against it. They didn’t need to be told, they already knew their usage was against the TOS and just didn’t like that Cloudflare decided to enforce the rule they very well knew they were already breaking. They even said it themselves.

It's evidently clear. Did you even read the thread we’re talking about? Like even remotely? Or are you continuing on the same diatribe regardless what was clearly already written?

> I am not saying I am right. I did break the TOS. They have the right to do what they did. It's just not nice and I don't like them anymore :)

This is not a person who was confused. Period.

Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by stale2002 on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:19PM (#34650263)
> It's evidently clear

Actually no.

The statement that you responded to was "Mostly for all other their user(1/3 of internet or something like this) that maybe doesn't even know there are not full-compliant to TOS and risk their business to be terminated suddenly.".

So, for those other users, that "maybe doesn't even know there are not full-compliant to TOS ", it is not clear.

You literally responded and quoted a hypothetical where it is not clear to the people who "maybe doesn't even know there are not full-compliant to TOS".

Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by mynameisvlad on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:26PM (#34650321)
Says who? You are not the arbiter of what is clear. The examples shown, you know, the ones we are actually discussing, show that it’s clear.

That you chose to discard them is on you. But that doesn’t mean they just magically don’t exist.

Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by stale2002 on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:34PM (#34650382)
Originally you responded to someone who said "(1/3 of internet or something like this) that maybe doesn't even know there are not full-compliant to TOS".

And your response was basically: "Ignorance is no defense".

It sounds like you are now backing off on that response, by instead attacking the premise of the statement.

So great, as long as you agree that "Ignorance is no defense" is actually a bad argument, and that actually it is on the company to make sure that people understand the TOS, then awesome, you agree with me.

Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by mynameisvlad on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:36PM (#34650402)
Ignorance continues to be no defense but whatever you want to believe to help you sleep at night, bud.

Here’s a gold star, champ.

Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by stale2002 on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:38PM (#34650415)
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Re:Small SaaS banned by Cloudflare after 4 years of being pa... by mynameisvlad on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:41PM (#34650442)
The issue has been fixed; if you were to actually read the comments you may have discovered that. But you’ve made it clear that’s not something you partake in.

Once again, whatever you want to believe to help you sleep at night.