Too Many Managers: The Strategic Use of Titles to Avoid Overtime Payments

Re:Too Many Managers: The Strategic Use of Titles to Avoid O... by mikestew on Friday February 03, 2023 @05:23PM (#34648630)

You should have taken the director job, you probably would have handled it as well as anyone else. I was a "Director" of Test at one company. I didn't even have a budget. Even in interviews I'll tell folks that I was a test manager with a glorified title (though with no budget, was I even a "test manager"?).

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Re:Too Many Managers: The Strategic Use of Titles to Avoid O... by Waterluvian on Friday February 03, 2023 @05:26PM (#34648669)

I’ve learned after a number of years that I don’t want any job where there’s an expectation that I’m reachable after 5pm. That was definitely one of them.

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Re:Too Many Managers: The Strategic Use of Titles to Avoid O... by ratboy666 on Friday February 03, 2023 @06:09PM (#34649141)

I expect that, if given the title Director, the candidate has a P&L and makes a significant part of her income through making the P&L. Director should be "Manager of Managers" -- close to "Vice President"

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Re:Too Many Managers: The Strategic Use of Titles to Avoid O... by mikestew on Friday February 03, 2023 @06:32PM (#34649372)

I would say your expectations are reasonable. The anecdote was more to point out the some of the ridiculousness of title inflation (and now that I reread, I did a poor job of getting that point across). I was no where near director-level in job responsibility, nor did I really want an actual director job to begin with.

But now imagine I'm full of myself with my new "Director" title, and go out to interview for real director-level jobs. Man, the previous company would have done me no favors as I go out there and get absolutely slaughtered in interviews.

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