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Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by LawTalkingGuy on Friday February 03, 2023 @03:03AM (#34638508)
Here's a transcript that seems fairly accurate to the video interview I saw contemporaneously: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/full-text-trump-co...

His own words: "you had people – and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too."

There are many good reasons to dislike Trump but you weaken them by association when you repeat the false accusations and misrepresentations.

Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by manuelabeledo on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:16PM (#34644237)
Related: https://twitter.com/IamRageSparkle/status/128089153745134387...

"Once you let a nazi in your bar, it becomes a nazi bar."

Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by LawTalkingGuy on Friday February 03, 2023 @09:15PM (#34650671)
It was a protest in a park, nobody could keep anyone else out.

And does that apply equally to Antifa?

Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by manuelabeledo on Friday February 03, 2023 @09:30PM (#34650762)
Are we really comparing people burning ATMs with nazis now?
Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by LawTalkingGuy on Friday February 03, 2023 @11:24PM (#34651509)
Beating reporters, pulling motorists out of their vehicles, throwing molotov cocktails at occupied buildings, etc. All politically motivated violence aka terrorism.

Are you really defending that based on who does it?

Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by manuelabeledo on Saturday February 04, 2023 @08:40AM (#34654395)
No, I’m just saying that there are grades of malice, and I put nazis on the top, with a comfortable margin over any second.

Because their motivation is to remove any “undesirable” from their sight, and their definition of “undesirable” is wide and expanding and imminent, at least in the US [0]

In contrast, there has been one single murder in the past 26 years, where a far left activist was charged in the US, although subsequently shot and killed by the police [1].

So, I’m evaluating motivation here.

There’s no such thing as “both sides are bad”. Centrism is a lazy and uninformed view of the world.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_a...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_an...

Re:The unequal treatment of demographic groups by ChatGPT/Op... by LawTalkingGuy on Friday February 10, 2023 @02:21AM (#34736699)
> There’s no such thing as “both sides are bad”. Centrism is a lazy and uninformed view of the world.

No, there's no such thing as "your side is also bad so my side therefore is not".

But both sides can easily be wrong. You don't need to draw false equivalences to condemn two sets of people at once.