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Re:US police receive less training than plumbers by hindsightbias on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:49PM (#34633658)
Seems like someone has a lot of bigotry towards plumbers and their training. 9000 hours of on the job training, coursework, tests, certification/licensing to become a journeyman.

How about "Engineers/programmers/teachers receive less training than plumbers"?

Re:US police receive less training than plumbers by sudosysgen on Thursday February 02, 2023 @05:38PM (#34634258)
4 years of full-time undergrad is not far from that. It certainly varies per university but where I'm at you have to take 5 classes per semester, 2 semesters a year for 4 years to get an engineering degree, with the expectation each class will take 8-10 hours of your time a week (predictably very few students finish on time), for 17 weeks each semester, for around 7000 hours of work.

You then need 2-3 years of supervised work before you are considered to be a full engineer.

On the computer science side if you don't go for engineering, you have just as many classes, and you're generally not considered to be a real, productive software engineer out of college.

In another country I studied in, to get a CS degree you need 5 years of specialized postsecondary education, and 6 for engineering (highschool ends a year sooner). That's 8500 to 10200 hours of full-time specialized postsecondary education, only for you to be considered barely useful when you come out.

I think it's less about bigotry towards plumbers and more about prejudice towards cops.

Re:US police receive less training than plumbers by ElfinTrousers on Saturday February 04, 2023 @08:29AM (#34654321)
"Prejudice" means literally "to judge before". I would describe this attitude towards cops more as "postjudice".
Re:US police receive less training than plumbers by idontwantthis on Thursday February 02, 2023 @09:28PM (#34636415)
I want to live in a world where the people legally allowed to kill me in the street are the high bar on education.
Re:US police receive less training than plumbers by Gud on Friday February 03, 2023 @03:33AM (#34638733)
They are only legally allowed to kill you with good reason. And in many countries, the same rules apply to you.
Re:US police receive less training than plumbers by polski-g on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:27AM (#34640774)
Non police are also legally allowed to kill others who pose imminent harm to themselves or others. You don't lose rights when you take the job of a police officer.