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Re:Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU by Seattle3503 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @02:26PM (#34631793)
Sometimes I think we have romanticized civil disobedience a little too much. Not because having authoritarian laws is good, but because it seems like some people would rather be heroic resistance fighters than engage dry policy work and advocacy. It would be better to never live under bad laws at all.
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Re:Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU by ur-whale on Thursday February 02, 2023 @03:11PM (#34632324)
>some people would rather be heroic resistance fighters than engage dry policy work and advocacy

This is a nice take, that would be the right one if you operated in a fair system.

But if you have ever engaged in the very dirty game of trying to change or remove a bad law (bad for whatever reason), you soon learn how very dirty the game is.

Extremely few people who play that game are in it for the betterment of society as a whole rather than the betterment of their own destiny and that of their friends.

And even if they started out that way, it never lasts. Human nature.

Want to change policy? Quid pro quo. Read all about it, and be ready to do nothing but.

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Re:Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU by irusensei on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:03PM (#34632985)
> people would rather be heroic resistance fighters than engage dry policy work and advocacy

Isn't it tiring? I mean you can raise hell and get some picture but you know one or 4 years from now they will try the same bullshit with a different name until it works.

You are wasting your time and energy on activism while there are crooks literally getting paid (by your money) to degrade your life. I think that time and energy should be best spent building things which are immune to power abuse.

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Re:Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU by sebastianz on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:52AM (#34641027)
> I think that time and energy should be best spent building things which are immune to power abuse.

I'm not sure such a thing exists. What technologies built by humans do you know of that are immune to power abuse?

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Re:Stop the proposal on mass surveillance of the EU by irusensei on Sunday February 05, 2023 @02:20AM (#34662718)
Cryptography
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