It's not an either or bud, it's both. IF you are allowing laws in place that these police officers are able to use as justification then your government is just as at fault as the officers. It's pure idiocy not to blame both. Where do you think the officers get their power from? It's like you're failing to reach the logical conclusion and blunting your own thought process because you hate cops.

Cops AND the government giving them the power to do stuff like this are both to blame.

I’m not your bud, guy.

Oh ok, that upset you but yelling bullshit in your comments with no objective data to back your statements up is fine? You need to chill. Maybe use your anger vote in someone who doesn't allow your police officers to act this way?

The laws don't actually have to exist. Cops can arrest you if they just say they thought it was the law and that the believed they had the right to enforce it. They can totally make it up. So while you may not be convicted of violating a made up law you still have to deal with all the consequences of the arrest. No ramifications for the cops at all. They have virtually unlimited power.

They don't hold up in court if that's the case and they get sued out of existence. This is just a flat out false assumption especially in today's climate.

The city government can remove powers from these officers as well. They are just as at fault for letting this exist.

The supreme court actually decided this. Cops just have to think they are enforcing the law. Cops for the most part cannot be personally sued due to qualified immunity. Tax payers just cover any litigation losses. Vast majority of times cops break the law there are no repercussions. The latest high profile cases are an exception. Even when committing an egregious act and charged, cops are often found not guilty.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

Much of the power of local officials is blunted by agreements in place with police unions.

I'm not electing anyone. I have one vote. I see almost no difference in police violence regardless of what political party is in local power.

Everything you have written is wishful thinking.

So your fix is to do nothing and complain? Sounds like a great plan.

Maybe stop living in places that are run this way?

Who let the supposed powerful police unions get that way? The police are an arm of the government. You will change nothing by targeting the result of government overreach instead of the cause.

Lol, I have no idea why you are so angry at me. I have no plans at all to address the issue. I'm not going to pack up my kids and move out of America. How do you think I am personally going to change the government? I very much think you are confusing me, a regular guy with someone who has much much more power.

Congratulations though on personally solving all government problems wherever you live.

You don't care that police are just going rogue with the law and killing people with no recourse?

Why are you even commenting on this thread at all then?

If I really thought that I would get the fuck out instantly or do my best to fix it. A place like that isn't somewhere I'd willingly live, and I certainly wouldn't want my children growing up in that environment. Are you saying you're ok with your kids potentially getting killed by these rogue cops?

Personally, I think either you weren't serious with your comments, or you're now realizing that what you said doesn't hold water.

lol, amigo if you live in the United States then you are living in it to. You are so angry at me for not doing anything to stop something that affects the entire country. Or are you angry because i say its an issue and you have chosen to ignore it as one?

Of course I care about it, I never said I didn't. I said there is nothing I can do about it and that I am not going to try.

What have you done to prevent companies dumping poison in your kids drinking water? https://publicintegrity.org/environment/industrial-waste-pol...

What have you done to stop police killings? https://abc7chicago.com/amir-locke-shooting-mark-hanneman-mi...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/03/us/ohio-man-police-shooting-j...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/cleveland-officer-...

It has certainly gotten better in the last couple years; I am sure you are the one responsible for that.

There are hundreds of terrible things that are done by people with more power than us everyday. What are you doing about it?