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Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by kyrra on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:23PM (#34621236)
The SWE ladder goes from L3 - L9. L5 is a place most average software engineers will stay. Getting above L6 as an individual contributor makes you a very special person.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by neom on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:25PM (#34621250)
Does an L9 trump a "senior staff engineer"? Back in the day when I used to interview engineers, I recall staff engineer being a very senior position at big businesses.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by rootusrootus on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:30PM (#34621287)
At most garden variety BigCorps that I'm aware of, these days staff engineer is basically anyone with a decent amount of experience. A step above senior, that's about it. Principal is next, and actually does have a bit more meaning, but still not _that_ special. Based on everything I've read, Google L9 easily trumps both of those positions and by a fairly large margin.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by xoogler2004 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:33PM (#34621305)
Senior staff is L7.

Swe 2, Swe 3, senior, staff, senior staff, principal, distinguished, god

In that order, except god isn’t really a level it’s just Sanjay and Jeff.

Swe 2 is L3, goes up by one for each level, thus senior is 5, senior staff is 7, etc

Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by Cyph0n on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:41PM (#34621353)
As far as I know, there is Fellow before “God” (aka Senior Fellow).
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by esrauch on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:36PM (#34621321)
The official titles are 5 is senior, 6 is staff, 7 is senior staff. That doesn't necessarily map to how titles are at other companies though, a 7 IC is already rare enough that many engineers won't interact with any for years; even most 6s are manager types.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by RandomThrow321 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:31PM (#34621298)
Staff Engineer is L6, and Senior Staff is L7. These are quite high, the vast majority of engineers at Google won’t make it to these levels. Depending on the the team/org, they may tackle large, complex problems and dictate the direction of functional areas and organizational strategy.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by davidcbc on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:35PM (#34621317)
Senior staff is L7. There are probably a hundred L7s for every L9, if not more.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by mstibbard on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:28PM (#34621272)
I would estimate a senior staff engineer to be an L5 or L6 at Google
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by Cyph0n on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:41PM (#34621356)
L6 is staff, senior staff is L7.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by voidlogic on Thursday February 02, 2023 @12:17AM (#34622394)
Right but a Google L6 is a was probably a PE at the last Fortune 500 they worked for.
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by seedless-sensat on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:31PM (#34621293)
Senior Staff is L7
Re:Google layoffs Jan 20, 2023 – California WARN public records by esprehn on Thursday February 02, 2023 @02:06AM (#34623181)
The SWE ladder goes to L10 (Fellow). There's also Sr Fellow (L11) but that might be just Sanjay and Jeff, and I think Jeff is technically on the manager ladder as an SVP now.