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Re:Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight by wkat4242 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:41PM (#34620918)
I know, but as far as I know it requires them to stay with 200nm or so of an airport. So they can't take the most direct route. Also for flights over the poles.

I think four engines still have a benefit there. But I guess you don't run a whole airplane model just because it's not economical on 2 or 3 routes.

Re:Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight by mulmen on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @08:54PM (#34621014)
I have personally flown from Seattle to Hawaii on a 737 MAX. That is 2320nmi. So no, the ETOPS limit is not 200nmi. There's nothing between Seattle and Hawaii but water. You can see AS853 is a nearly straight line from Seattle to Honolulu. If any of that deviation is for ETOPS it is minor.

ETOPS is time based, not distance based. The 777 has been approved by the FAA for ETOPS-330, which is 330 minutes of flight time to the nearest airport on one engine.

The 737 MAX is ETOPS-180, so it only has to be within 3 hours of a suitable airport when running on one engine.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport_status_bigmap.rvt?airpo...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/as853#2ef8bfcb

Re:Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight by Armisael16 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:03PM (#34621090)
The 787 has a 330 minute ETOPS certification, so as long as it’s within 6.5 hours of an airport it can fly there.

That’s almost everywhere on the planet except the South Pacific and Antarctica.

Re:Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight by wkat4242 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @06:32PM (#34634869)
Aha ok, I didn't know that. I thought they had to remain within glide distance (and I think this was also the case in the beginning). I haven't flown intercontinentally for a very long time :) And most of it was in 747s.
Re:Easter egg in flight path of last 747 delivery flight by mulmen on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:09PM (#34644101)
Glide distance was never a consideration of ETOPS.