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Re:Princeton CS Prof: ChatGPT Is a Bullshit Generator (2022) by xoac on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:15PM (#34619529)
This is a pretty dumb take and it's repeated in this thread. The goal of the assignment is not a result. I mean the professor can probably write a better essay than some kid who just learned that this subject exist. The point of this exercise is to have the student learn how to do the work, so they can do it when it's not a simulated exercise.
Re:Princeton CS Prof: ChatGPT Is a Bullshit Generator (2022) by brookst on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @10:42PM (#34621742)
You’re missing the point. Even if you disagree with the point, it’s important to understand it.

If the goal is “to have the student learn how to do the work”, and there is a tool they can use to do so, then using the tool is doing the work.

Your position only makes sense if you define “the work” to also include exactly the process you personally learned. No fewer tools (did you learn on a word processor?), no more tools (is spellcheck OK?).

Re:Princeton CS Prof: ChatGPT Is a Bullshit Generator (2022) by lm28469 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:44AM (#34624346)
I think you're missing the elephant in the room: we learn _to_ learn and be able to adapt, not to "do the work".
Re:Princeton CS Prof: ChatGPT Is a Bullshit Generator (2022) by brookst on Thursday February 02, 2023 @09:14AM (#34626741)
Um. So kids adapting to use LLMs and learning how to prompt them to get the desired results is evidence that they aren’t learning or adapting?

Doesn’t that feel a little. . . Odd?

Re:Princeton CS Prof: ChatGPT Is a Bullshit Generator (2022) by lm28469 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @09:40AM (#34627087)
When you are told to write an essay about WW2 it's not because your teacher needs info about WW2 but because they want you to read, parse, search, filter information and organise it in a logical manner. If all you do it type a question in chatgpt you learn nothing of these things that will be very useful in life in many situations in which you won't be able to ask your AI overlord for a quick answer.

You go from being a swiss army knife to being a butter knife without handle, it's all fun and games as long as you're asked to cut butter but when you'll have cut a steak or open a beer bottle you'll have a hard time.

Re:Princeton CS Prof: ChatGPT Is a Bullshit Generator (2022) by xoac on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:15AM (#34626084)
Even if language models exist that can generate text for you, it is still very useful to be literate yourself. At least it is for me.