Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture?

Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture? by mschuster91 on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @05:22PM (#34618827)

> Counter-culture is supposed to be edgy, just like jazz and rock were edgy, greasers/rockabilly were edgy, beatniks were edgy, hippies were edgy, disco was edgy, punks were edgy, LGBTQ was edgy, and so on. Every one of them were described by dismissive epithets just like the string you put together about how awful and contrary to decency they were.

And yet, not a single of the groups you listed was "edgy" at the expense of anybody's existence.

Today's "counterculture" however? Actual, literal Nazis spamming swastika emojis, bullying trans people into suicide.

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Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture? by zassy on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @09:20PM (#34621214)

Sid Vicious, Marilyn Manson, Alice Cooper and many other artists who were undebatably part of counterculture very often did stuff to intentionally offend members of mainstream culture.

Manson did a ton of stuff to piss off Christians and rightoids. While it might seem hilarious with modern day sensibilities, Rage saying fuck on BBC live did offend quite a lot of people. Hell, Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux used to regularly wear literal Swastikas for the shock value.

None of this shit is new.

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Re:Do We Live in a Society Without a Counterculture? by Fricken on Thursday February 02, 2023 @01:51AM (#34623071)

Much of today's "counterculture" I suppose was more mainstream back in the 60s. Outsiders, delinquents, atavists and reprobates of many sorts are grouped together with, and generally accepted by the prevailing counterculture, but do not necessarily represent the counterculture's core beliefs and practices. They do, however, share a common antagonist.

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