Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by VLM on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:00PM
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Its been the same credibility gap from those people since the unobtainable $5 Pi Zero back in 2015. Eight years and many models later they still don't ship at MSRP despite what they claim. However, their competition can and does ship on time what they advertise at MSRP. Its like two different marketplaces.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by mindcrime on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @03:33PM
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I don't see them as having any major credibility gap personally. Until the crazy chipageddon stuff started (which, BTW, affected the entire industry) I was routinely to buy Raspbery Pi 4 Model B boards at (approximately) MSRP. Same for the Pi 3 before that.
Call me crazy, but I don't have any problem believing that things will get back to normal soon, and that Pi's of various sorts will indeed return to MSRP, or very near MSRP.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by sliken on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @04:47PM
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They do ship at MSRP, to a large number of corporate partners that embed the Pi in their products. Apparently at the rate of 30M per year. However much like the bitcoin miners who slurped up the GPUs for years, there's precious few Pis available to end users.
So much so that out of 30M a year the Pi foundation decided to allocate an extra 100k for end users, which did improve availability, but still it's clear that most production is going to corporate partners and not end users.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by apple4ever on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:21PM
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So as he said, the market is dead. If normal people can't get it, then it's dead.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by sliken on Thursday February 02, 2023 @09:35PM
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Pi market ... sure. ARM based SBC not so much. Just get one of the zillion Pi clones that have many advantages like speed, better PCIe, not using USB for storage/net, more ram, better perf/watt, NVMe, etc.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by mindcrime on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:03AM
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But normal people are getting Raspberry Pi's. Some people by using rpilocator and patiently waiting for units selling at MSRP to come into stock at official retailers, and impatient people by paying inflated prices to scalpers. But anybody who wants a Pi can, to a first approximation, have on today.
And not to beat a dead horse, but there's good reason to believe that this situation is temporary and that supplies (and prices) will stabilize sooner than later.
All of this "the market for Raspberry Pi is dead" stuff seems like pure hyperbole to me.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by imhoguy on Friday February 10, 2023 @11:38AM
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30M RPis per year? Fascinating, I wonder what kind of products they ship with RPis inside.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by sliken on Friday February 10, 2023 @11:52AM
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Sorry, 7M a year, I think it's close to 40m total.
Re:The Rock 5B is not a Raspberry Pi killer–yet
by apple4ever on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:21PM
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I don't believe for a second it's temporary.
I expect to go into 2024 with the same problem.
That's a temporary situation though. The RPi foundation folks have said the expect supply to be back to normal sometime this year.