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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by tshaddox on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @04:10PM (#34602162)
Nothing about this would let a developer cut down your tree, build on your yard, etc. You just wouldn't be able to stop your neighbor from selling their property to a developer who might cut down trees and build things there. It's not unreasonable for you to have preferences about what your neighbors do with their property, just like it's not unreasonable for you to have preferences about which kinds of restaurants are close to your home. But should you be able to prevent your favorite restaurant from legally closing?
Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by nlavezzo on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @04:29PM (#34602466)
Your neighbor doesn't currently have the right to do anything they want with their property though. They don't absolutely own it and have some kind of sovereign status. They can't turn it into a gas station or auto repair shop. They have the right to exclusive use of the land for the purpose of a single family dwelling built to certain specifications and abiding by various guidelines and regulations.

When each neighbor bought into the neighborhood, they all signed up for this same basic deal. Many of them would likely have chosen to not spend their money on the property had their neighbors not been bound by the same rules.

What is being proposed is a significant change to those rules that every owner at some point agreed to. This absolutely does affect everyone in the neighborhood because an older neighborhood is more than a collection of unrelated properties, it is a collection of actual homes of similar size and character with a particular feel and aesthetic.

A change to the rules may absolutely be necessary for the health of the city / population as a whole. Totally agree with this. Don't pretend though that it's not coming at the cost of infringing on the existing homeowners' reasonable expectations of what they bought into when they purchased their properties. Again, maybe it does need to happen, but homeowners are not unreasonable for wanting to keep their neighborhoods as they've always known and loved them.

Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by zip1234 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @07:04PM (#34604242)
Buying a house and expecting nothing to change in one's neighborhood is completely unreasonable. Places change constantly.
Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by jjav on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @12:46AM (#34606923)
> Buying a house and expecting nothing to change in one's neighborhood is completely unreasonable.

From a contractual/legal perspective, sure.

From an emotional perspective though, it's different. Nobody buys a house on a whim, people spend a huge amount of time researching the best spot to buy based on all their preferences. To suddenly change all that is going to be distressing to any person who has ever bought a house.

Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by tshaddox on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @10:48PM (#34606101)
> What is being proposed is a significant change to those rules that every owner at some point agreed to.

Sure, because the law is changing, at least ostensibly due to the will of the people. The didn’t initially “agree to the rules,” and the new rules aren’t optional either. I’m obviously not so naive to think that all changes in law reflect the will of the people, but it’s pretty easy to see why this is likely the case, especially in these particular places that have enormous demand for housing and extreme restrictions on new housing developments (I bet that’s not a coincidence!).