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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by xp84 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:30PM (#34600517)
many others have pointed out how tunnel-vision you are being, but just wanted to add:

Low traffic → Less cars driving

How do you get less cars driving? People need realistic options. How do you get those options? Density to support transit and Density to support having businesses close to everyone's homes so they can just walk or bike. Car-dependent suburbia IS the problem, and the more of it you have in the city the bigger the problems of traffic and unaffordability get.

Finally though:

> want to keep them that way

Look, don't get carried away. Unless a very significant block of homeowners in your beautiful leafy neighborhood are itching to sell, you have literally nothing to fear. Maybe when a large mall is demolished a mile away from you, someone will build something other than single-family tract homes. Big whoop.

*Nobody is coming for your suburbs with bulldozers* just because "SFH" might not be enshrined as the only way anything can be developed.

Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by nlavezzo on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:54PM (#34600944)
> many others have pointed out how tunnel-vision you are being

I'm not advocating for low density suburbs or for things to remain unchanged.

My point was that the implication that some kind of nefarious prejudice was the main reason for homeowners wanting to keep the status quo, isn't fair or accurate.

Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by dahfizz on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @03:10PM (#34601177)
This is a very simplistic view. Less people per unit land also means less cars per unit land. Depending on how the roads are designed, you can get a spread out neighborhood with no traffic on your street.

I grew up on a cul-de-sac. There were 8 houses on the street. The only time there was a car on the street is when someone from one of those 8 houses went somewhere. There was zero traffic and the street was safe for kids to play in.

Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by nerdbert on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @04:22PM (#34602357)
> Less people per unit land also means less cars per unit land.

Only if you arbitrarily cherry-pick the unit of analysis to support your argument.

The only way to actually reduce cars per unit of land across all available land is to increase housing density so that sensible transportation alternatives like bicycle and metro become viable for the lazier marginal population.