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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by epistasis on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @12:19PM (#34598121)
If you redefine "homelessness" to only include those with addiction or mental illness problems, then you might have a point. But that's not a terrible useful definition, and many of those addiction and mental illness problems stem from not having housing and the extreme difficulty of that situation.

Other areas with higher rates of addiction, but cheaper housing, have lower rates of homelessness. Cheaper housing really does allow people to get off the streets.

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Re:CA Cities to Lose All Zoning Powers in 2 Days by whimsicalism on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @12:24PM (#34598194)
Expensive housing is also correlated with better provisioning of services which draws people here.

I am not redefining anything, I am describing to you what people are colloquially talking about and why these conversations oftentimes are just people talking past each other because they have different issues in mind. When people in SF say "homelessness is out of control", they are typically talking about the population I am mentioning - one that is unlikely to be helped by changes to housing costs at the margin.

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