Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF
by fidgewidge on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:46PM
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The UK never held anything close to a dominant position in European governance.
Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF
by matthewdgreen on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @05:20PM
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The UK was one of the top 3-4 nations by voting power (depending on the time) in the 27-member EU and a very important player in EU politics. Their negotiating power is evidenced by the fact that they were able to secure opt-outs from a number of treaty obligations.
Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF
by fidgewidge on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:04AM
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In the past! Over time less and less was decided by voting and we saw what the UK's influence was worth when Cameron took voters concerns to the other leaders. Answer: shut up and do as you are told.
The EU hasn't been interested in votes for a long time and will certainly be even less interested in future.
Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF
by orwin on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @05:56PM
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It was dominant though. Top2 or top3 in research orientation. I don't think a single project was ever done without major UK participants and researchers.
Granted, we mostly excluded 'public schools' in favor of UK universities, at least for research and engineering projects, but Edinburgh had more power than Hamburg and Hannover, and I think only Paris-Lyon had more projects than them. Mostly because we had space projects.
Re:UK expected to be only major economy to shrink in 2023 – IMF
by fidgewidge on Wednesday February 01, 2023 @06:05AM
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That's only one tiny aspect which hardly matters to anyone outside of academia.
When the UK maintained a global empire, the answer was "obviously yes." When the UK held a dominant position in European governance (along with the various benefits that came with that), the answer was still "yes." But now the UK has given both of those things. So it's reasonable to ask if these are expensive luxuries from another era.