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Re:D.C. free bus bill becomes law as zero-fare transit syste... by arcticbull on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @01:40AM (#34592001)
fwiw, Caltrain's farebox recovery rate going into COVID was among the highest in the US at around 73%. Bart around 72%. WMATA was about 33%. [1]

[1] https://www.enotrans.org/article/the-mass-transit-fiscal-cli...

Re:D.C. free bus bill becomes law as zero-fare transit syste... by yellowapple on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @01:59AM (#34592122)
> Nobody talks about how much the army loses.

I mean, I do. But that boils mostly down to me perceiving more value in a robust public transit network than in a bloated MIC.

Re:D.C. free bus bill becomes law as zero-fare transit syste... by incone123 on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:16AM (#34592254)
The average spend on a new car per year is not the same thing as what the 'average American' actually buys. Lots of people keep the same car for many years, or buy used, or even don't have a car.
Re:D.C. free bus bill becomes law as zero-fare transit syste... by arcticbull on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:19AM (#34592268)
Used cars cost roughly what new cars cost still, interest rates are higher than ever - insurance, gas, maintenance, car payments, parking, tickets, tolls, registration, license, etc, etc, it adds up really fast. Since it's so diffuse people aren't as sensitive. Not to mention with a used car w/o warranty you're on the hook for the whole cost if something goes wrong.

Of course there will be outliers, but owning a car is a massive money sinkhole and a disproportionate burden on the poor.

The average car insurance payment alone is $136 (and significantly more for those with 'bad credit' - i.e. the poor). The average monthly transit pass in the US is $83. [1, 2]

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/990891/us-average-monthl...

[2] https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/insurance/how-much-is-car...