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Re:Cargo airships could be big by oliveshell on Monday January 30, 2023 @04:44PM (#34586866)
I looked into this a while back, and there's simply no feasible way to construct an airship from known materials that could sustain a vacuum of the necessary volume without being crushed by atmospheric pressure.

You can keep reinforcing the vacuum chamber, but by the time it's strong enough, it'll be too heavy for the buoyant forces to lift it.

Re:Cargo airships could be big by morpheos137 on Monday January 30, 2023 @06:29PM (#34588234)
You could make many small vacuums in a honeycomb structure but at that point is just cheaper to use a lifting gas...
Re:Cargo airships could be big by kilianinbox on Monday January 30, 2023 @07:25PM (#34588951)
Honeycomb structures; may be dynamic and expanded as a sort of umbrella since pressure is lower higher up above the clouds. I guess a nifty construction with tiny small mirrors can direct lots of solar energy and work as sails, controlled by smart bending compliant mechanisms. Also - regarding flying objects, I've always wondered if a rotating disc, ie frisbee falls slower to thee ground because of atmosphere interaction, or if it's still falls slower in a vacuum with other forces at work. Well, still rails and boats are good stuff. I really like that honeycomb for an -n dimensional space construction idea.
Re:Cargo airships could be big by mLuby on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:00AM (#34592131)
Instead of additional mass, you could add additional energy.

For example, a small maglev running around the inside of the vacuum sphere would steady outward pressure on that part of the sphere. Add more trains at different angles to even out the forces.

As a bonus, this kind of "active structure" can dynamically vary its structural strength as atmospheric pressure changes with altitude or weather.

See Orbital Rings for more info.