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Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by strangattractor on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:19PM (#34584046)
I am not convinced that ChatGPT is all that much of a threat to Google. Exactly how difficult would it be for Google to reproduce ChatGPT? They have access to all the training data and crawl it regularly. They have the infrastructure in place to make the model and integrate it into search. What am I missing here?

Unless OpenAI has some IP they cannot use it would seem that they have done Google a favor by demonstrating the potential of the technology. If my memory is correct one cannot patent an algorithm.

Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by sblom on Monday January 30, 2023 @03:07PM (#34585625)
ChatGPT's threat to Google isn't that Google can't match it--it's that it changes the approach to search results from displaying lists of results where it's "natural" to insert sponsored listings to a more conversational approach where ad opportunities will be rarer (or at least entirely different).

If users prefer the newer, interactive approach to exploring search results, Google's long-standing business model will require a significant update.

Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by randomluck040 on Monday January 30, 2023 @04:40PM (#34586817)
In my mind you might as well place sponsored content into a conversation and hide it maybe even better than in search results as a list.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by lttlrck on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @12:23AM (#34591518)
Product placement.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by Geloto on Monday January 30, 2023 @04:26PM (#34586615)
Google already has something like it.

It also has imagine

Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by sva_ on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:16PM (#34584002)
ML Research is currently at a stage where a lot of low hanging fruit is available for picking. And if you're not quick (as in: publish), someone else will get to eat instead.

Google would probably attract a lot less talent if they didn't have such high-profile publications. People want their names on papers.

Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by xkapastel on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:11PM (#34583917)
OpenAI made GPT, not Google. Did you mean "Attention is all you need", the paper that introduced transformers?
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by amichail on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:12PM (#34583946)
Yes.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by xkapastel on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:15PM (#34583980)
Google did not "threaten their own business" by publishing basic research in machine learning. Products threaten businesses, not research.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by psychphysic on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:17PM (#34584004)
But research does attract funding, and top tier employees.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by xkapastel on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:32PM (#34584252)
Okay, and that funding and top tier talent was attracted to Google, right? I'm not sure what you meant by that.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by minimaxir on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:16PM (#34583997)
For the same reasons large companies release open-source software.
Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by kirubakaran on Monday January 30, 2023 @06:56PM (#34588557)
Soviet scientist Pyotr Ufimtsev's research publications lead to the development of US stealth aircrafts like SR-71 BlackBird etc. Pyotr's research was ignored in the USSR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Ufimtsev https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/101438.Skunk_Works

Re:Ask HN: Why did Google threaten its own business by publi... by PestoDiRucola on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @08:09AM (#34594586)
I don’t think ChatGPT is of any threat to Google. I am pretty certain that Google and maybe other tech companies such as Meta probably have their own text generation models that are as good as (if not better) ChatGPT. Why they haven’t released them to the public is anyone’s guess.