Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by hgomersall on Monday January 30, 2023 @08:57AM
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A common one is the tying of one's shoelaces. It's pretty common to tie the knot in an unbalanced way. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm
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Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by daRealDodo on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:09AM
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Worthy of the best TED talk ever:
https://youtu.be/zAFcV7zuUDA
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by WithinReason on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:35AM
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That is now outdated:
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm
Another view:
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by hgomersall on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:53AM
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It's quite hard to maintain tension with the Ian knot and it also doesn't speed up the initial twist. It's a good party trick though!
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by WithinReason on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:41AM
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Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by hirenj on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:55AM
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I've been using the secure version of this knot for a few years now, and I've been entirely satisfied with how it holds up in the real world!
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by maximus-decimus on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:36PM
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What does that even mean? lol. The Ted way still works and the shoe laces have not come undone in 10 years since I've been using it, so why would I change method?
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by pmarreck on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:36AM
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I’m a full fledged adult but I also appreciate efficiency so I recently invested in these things and so far so awesome:
Orange Elastic No Tie Shoe Laces... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PK2N1PD?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shar...
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by vehemenz on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:07AM
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Yep. I did this for about 30 years before I learned the correct way (from that site, no less).
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by songshu on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:02AM
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Yes and then spend a lifetime with annoying workarounds. A friend has been double knotting forever :(
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by lepapillon on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:43AM
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I came here to post this one. For about 25 years of my life I was tying my knots the wrong way and I just thought shoelaces just had to be re-tied periodically. I don't remember where I learnt to just tie the loop the other way. Now strain on the laces just serves to tighten the knot.
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by kuon on Monday January 30, 2023 @09:46AM
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I was also about to post that, and note that my wife who is japanese told me that in japan the correct way to tie shoelaces was taught at school, and she laughed for about a week when I told her that at 40 I didn't know that.
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by derekp7 on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:02AM
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Learning the Ian knot was life changing for me -- not only did it automatically correct the bow being in the correct orientation, but it doesn't take an inconvenient amount of time to tie my shoes anymore. Esp. when walking with a group, if a lace comes untied I can fix it without losing more than a couple paces.
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by bregma on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:05AM
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It wasn't until I had to teach knots to Cub Scouts that I realized my life was a lie, at least when it came to tying shoes. I was the object of ridicule for 50 years but now I walk with confidence, and always-tied shoes.
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by zzzeek on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:33AM
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this was my answer as well
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by Zecc on Monday January 30, 2023 @10:55AM
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Regardless of the knot itself, a heel lock also helps.
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by Semaphor on Monday January 30, 2023 @11:24AM
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This was so confusing to me. Don’t American kids learn how to tie their shoes properly? Here in Germany, I was taught that in kindergarten.
Re:Ask HN: Something you’ve done your whole life that you re...
by CSMastermind on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:14PM
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The knots being discussed are similar with one small difference: the direction you wrap the shoelace during one step.
The "incorrect" knot still works relatively well and looks almost the same as the "correct" knot. The "incorrect" one also requires significantly less finger dexterity which is why children tend to prefer it.