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Re:Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu? by jkepler on Sunday January 29, 2023 @06:15PM (#34573823)
Do you mean your laptop runs Devuan? I get that is nearly the same as Debian, but does it include the Debian social contract and community? Isn't it a separate project?

https://www.debian.org/social_contract

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Re:Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu? by yjftsjthsd-h on Sunday January 29, 2023 @09:14PM (#34575080)
If you're going that way Devuan is probably a better choice, but Debian did support running without systemd and still has sysvinit on a best-effort basis - https://wiki.debian.org/Init
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Re:Ask HN: What Next After Ubuntu? by txutxu on Tuesday January 31, 2023 @02:56PM (#34600981)
Sorry, it's not Devuan, but Debian 11.6, previously was 10.x and was on testing until Bullseye was released.

Works for me without systemd, no problem.

I already use systemd in hundreds of systems at work and personal servers/vps.

But on my personal laptop, I have too many custom stuff after 20 years of thinking around, glued across all the layers (kernel, boot loader, init, background services, tty, graphical environment) and I did choose to keep my laptop with the traditional equiv of all the things that systemd does, just because of that.

Debian is really flexible to allow you to choose components in the system, or to have more than one equivalent component, and to configure how they interact, and still be considered an official Debian system.

And even to allow to people like me to do your own Debian if you want. That is the "official Debian" that I like, the one that allows me, that doesn't force me.

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