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Re:Heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25-44 age group by ajsnigrutin on Sunday January 29, 2023 @05:31PM (#34573461)
> DR. ROCHELLE WALENSKY, CDC DIRECTOR

> And we have -- we can kind of almost see the end. We`re vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don`t get sick, and that it`s not just in the clinical trials but it`s also in real world data.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210402002315/https://www.msnbc...

Re:Heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25-44 age group by chimprich on Sunday January 29, 2023 @06:23PM (#34573881)
Oh good grief. That's a transcript of a real-time interview. People speak colloquially in ways that are not precise. Is that the best you can come up with?
Re:Heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25-44 age group by thunky on Sunday January 29, 2023 @10:25PM (#34575457)
It's the fucking director of the CDC. Precision is not optional, not for her, not on this subject.

She also said:

"We're just almost there, but not quite yet. And so I'm asking you to just hold on a little longer to get vaccinated when you can, so that all of those people that we all love will still be here when this pandemic ends.”

Give me a break.

Re:Heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25-44 age group by ajsnigrutin on Monday January 30, 2023 @05:12AM (#34577891)
Oh come on... this is not some physicst on a kids show, explaining how GPS work and skipping relativity....

...This is the director of CDC in a time of a huge pandemic and also a time when semi-mandatory vaccination policies were implemented everywhere, telling people directly, that if you get vaccinated, you won't carry the virus and/or get sick.

This is (was) no time for imprecise explanations, it was a time when you were literally getting forced to get vaccinated so you wouldn't get sick and transmit it to coworkers.

Re:Heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25-44 age group by chimprich on Monday January 30, 2023 @08:27AM (#34579295)
> telling people directly, that if you get vaccinated, you won't carry the virus and/or get sick

As a high level description, getting vaccinated means you won't get sick is not an unreasonable explanation, given they were 90%+ effective at the time in reducing symptoms.

> you were literally getting forced to get vaccinated

Really. Which country is this where literal forced vaccination was carried out? I don't believe any Western country implemented this. You appear to be spreading blatant lies while whinging about slight imprecision in a single transcript of a real-time interview.

Re:Heart attacks on dramatic rise for 25-44 age group by ajsnigrutin on Monday January 30, 2023 @01:02PM (#34583771)
"reducing symptoms" is something different than no symptoms at all and not carrying the virus.

> Really. Which country is this where literal forced vaccination was carried out? I don't believe any Western country implemented this. You appear to be spreading blatant lies while whinging about slight imprecision in a single transcript of a real-time interview.

Ok, "literally forced" was maybe a too-strong of a wording, but "forced to get vaccinated or lose your job" was a thing in many countries. For mine (slovenia) it's hard to find english articles of what you were unable to do if unvaccinated, but here are examples for usa:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_mandates_...

We can talk about technicalities of what "forced" means, but many people are/were not in a (financial) state to be able to survive without their jobs, and had to get vaccinated to keep them. Technically you're not forced, because you could choose not to eat and be homeless, but for most people that's a bad choice.