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Re:We can reduce homelessness if we follow the science on wh... by epicureanideal on Saturday January 28, 2023 @02:06PM (#34560476)
The loss of the distinction between the deserving poor and the undeserving poor also caused many people who would’ve supported help to one of those to just throw their hands in the air and forget the whole thing.
Re:We can reduce homelessness if we follow the science on wh... by 8note on Saturday January 28, 2023 @02:22PM (#34560649)
It's gone for good reason. "Deserving" tends to mean "white" and "Undeserving" tends to mean "Black"
Re:We can reduce homelessness if we follow the science on wh... by superorganism on Saturday January 28, 2023 @02:12PM (#34560530)
Well don't leave us hanging, how do you make the distinction?
Re:We can reduce homelessness if we follow the science on wh... by pessimizer on Saturday January 28, 2023 @02:15PM (#34560562)
That's what I'm talking about. The ability to hold back aid from the "undeserving" becomes a lot less important to people who live in relative homogeneity racially and culturally. Absolutely no surprise to me that Utah is relatively socialist internally while being on the extreme right externally.
Re:We can reduce homelessness if we follow the science on wh... by chimeracoder on Saturday January 28, 2023 @02:41PM (#34560900)
> Absolutely no surprise to me that Utah is relatively socialist internally while being on the extreme right externally.

Utah is also heavily Mormon, which complicates things. Mormons have a lot of beliefs that sound fairly socialist when you describe them in practice, except that they believe the church should be the administrator of those policies.

Mormons also heavily oppose abortion, which makes them a nearly single-issue voting bloc, making Utah deep red in a purely partisan sense.

If somehow abortion were a non-issue - like, overnight, everyone somehow magically forgot abortion even existed - it's not hard to imagine Mormons being one of the least conservative Christian denominations.

(Yes, I'm aware that other Christians don't consider the LDS to be Christians, but that's beside the point)

Re:We can reduce homelessness if we follow the science on wh... by yellowapple on Saturday January 28, 2023 @04:45PM (#34562296)
Mormon conservatism encompasses a lot more than just abortion. Discrimination by gender and orientation are still doctrine, and to some extent so is discrimination by race.

A lot of hardline religious sects superficially look like socialism if you only examine their in-groups and entirely ignore their out-groups. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is no exception.