Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for reading ‘Mein Kampf’

Re:Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for readi... by rayiner on Thursday January 26, 2023 @03:33PM (#34538373)

Unfortunately, lots of these public interest organizations are staffed with a new generation of lawyers who don’t believe in the old ways. My friend works at one such organization and was grumbling to me about young lawyers who protested representing a client who was undoubtedly within the scope of the organization’s mission, but who they didn’t like for unrelated reasons. (Details intentionally fuzzy to avoid outing anyone.)

There is a major ideological gap between the Boomer and Gen X liberals and the Zoomers on this front. The former were focused on craving out a space for pluralism in a society where the elite institutions were controlled by religious conservatives. The Zoomers grew up in a world where the religious conservatives have mostly been driven out of the elite institutions. They wish to use those institutions to advance their own moral ideology.

This covers the ACLU specifically: https://nypost.com/2022/01/31/ex-aclu-head-ira-glasser-slams...

This article isn’t directly relevant to your point, but covers some of the culture clash: https://theintercept.com/2022/06/13/progressive-organizing-i...

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Re:Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for readi... by tablespoon on Thursday January 26, 2023 @05:48PM (#34540000)

> There is a major ideological gap between the Boomer and Gen X liberals and the Zoomers on this front. The former were focused on craving out a space for pluralism in a society where the elite institutions were controlled by religious conservatives. The Zoomers grew up in a world where the religious conservatives have mostly been driven out of the elite institutions. They wish to use those institutions to advance their own moral ideology.

I've been getting those vibes too. Preach tolerance when oppressed, and oppression when in control.

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Re:Stanford student may need to ‘acknowledge harm’ for readi... by rayiner on Thursday January 26, 2023 @08:54PM (#34541518)

I’d say it’s more tolerance or pluralism versus universalism. Neither Christian conservatives nor woke progressives are deliberately trying to “oppress” anyone. Both believe in a universal morality, and believe that the world would be better if society operated according to their moral principles. And both are willing to use institutions and social and legal coercion to get people to embrace their ideology. (I don’t mean to characterize either side pejoratively. There’s an internal logic to both of you start from the assumptions they believe to be true.)

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