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Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by ram1024 on Monday October 27, 2008 @02:22PM (#345356)
i see where that is the case. i just hope it's not idle paranoia at this point letting people's judgements be clouded. if they have a solid reason, that's fine. but if they're just being sheeple they need to be educated properly. advertising is practically the ONLY way to gain traction in a recession.

what needs to be cut is NON revenue generating expenses in companies. not the ones that actually drive your business

Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by run4yourlives on Monday October 27, 2008 @02:34PM (#345374)
advertising is practically the ONLY way to gain traction in a recession.

That's simply un-true. Advertising is a growth strategy, but you can only grow when you're sure you've got all your ducks in order. What often happens during a recession is that the people in charge cut back on growth areas to ensure they are still focused on the right things. If they find that they are not, they persue new directions, if they confirm that they are going in the right directions, they reinvest.

You can rant about it all you want, but that is the reality of the marketplace. Not reacting to reality is not a smart thing to do, and most smart investors would rather keep their cash then give it to a (now riskier) venture.

Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by ram1024 on Monday October 27, 2008 @02:56PM (#345426)
precisely what i meant by "gaining traction".

of course it's a growth strategy. i would never suggest otherwise. but this IS the technology age. and i would even go out on a limb to suggest, if you're not growing and/or innovating, you're dying.

and that's doubly true when financial systems collapse

Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by run4yourlives on Monday October 27, 2008 @03:21PM (#345459)
if you're not growing and/or innovating, you're dying.

If you are traveling without focus on your direction, you will eventually fall off a cliff.

People start really worrying about their eventual cliff drops (real or imagined) during a recession. All businesses will need to react to that perception change if they want to survive.

Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by ram1024 on Monday October 27, 2008 @04:56PM (#345573)
you are on the right track, bro

if you've got your "ducks in a row" which i guess is the PC version of "shit together"... then you'll always be prepared for whatever comes. it's when you're not prepared and have these glaring flaws in your organization that everything falls apart when cliffs are spotted :D

it takes a true complete meltdown to kill a business that's "properly" run. we can only dream of that kind of perfection, though. i personally feel that ad-driven businesses are afforded a little extra cushion in bumpy times because their revenue is not directly from the consumers. of course sufficiently mountainous bumps are still felt O_o

thanks for your input

Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by jacobscott on Monday October 27, 2008 @02:31PM (#345370)
Why is advertising the only way to gain traction in a recession? Do you not understand that the startups on the Internet have many options for revenue? Do you need a stern talking to?

(above is tounge-in-cheek if that wasn't clear)

Re:Ask YC/Startups: How has fundraising been going for you? by ram1024 on Monday October 27, 2008 @02:57PM (#345427)
please do. i always welcome criticism. it builds character :D