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Re:Pip and cargo are not the same by oblio on Thursday January 26, 2023 @05:54AM (#34530175)
It's absolutely ridiculous how little these package manager devs looked at Maven.

It predates almost all of them by at least half a decade, has a lot of hard thought knowledge but "Java is icky, Java is enterprise, bleh" and I can't even count how many mistakes Maven fixed back in 2005 I still see in pip, npm, cargo, etc in 2023.

Re:Pip and cargo are not the same by gladiatr72 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @06:42AM (#34530510)
Perhaps the privilege of getting sued by Oracle has something to do with it. I seem to remember Sun (then Oracle) blowing a fair bit of money on lawsuits surrounding Java.
Re:Pip and cargo are not the same by oblio on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:18AM (#34530786)
I really doubt that a project by the Apache Software Foundation scared anyone of anything.

It would have taken these package manager devs a few days of gratis and lawsuit free research on their laptops to save millions of end users years of pain.

Re:Pip and cargo are not the same by smeagull on Sunday January 29, 2023 @11:15PM (#34575713)
My only experience of Maven was fighting it to get a single jar that included everything, and having it redownload every dependence with every single build.

I don't think downloading everything is a better solution.