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Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer... by dragonwriter on Thursday January 26, 2023 @04:35AM (#34529596)
> If they just wanted to show the world their product was viable, why didn't they pay for a real lawyer who's down to their luck to read out the crap ChatGPT was spewing out so there wouldn't be any legal gray area?

They tried that, but swung for the fences for publicity: they had a $1,000,000 offer to any attorney with a case pending before the Supreme Court to use it for oral argument.

Up until they abandoned the whole robot lawyer idea, that offer was open but apparently got no takers.

> You'd also need a fast typist to feed the record into ChatGPT of course, because you can't just record lawsuits,

You also generally can’t use an earpiece to get a feed in the courtroom, either.

Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer... by Dylan16807 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @04:50AM (#34529713)
No, they didn't try "that". "That" is having a lawyer in some basic case do it. The supreme court idea was never going happen and they knew it.
Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer... by dragonwriter on Thursday January 26, 2023 @12:05PM (#34534580)
> No, they didn't try "that".

In the the construction “they tried that, but... ”, the part after “but”, if it identifies an action by the actor and not an outcome, identifies a departure from what is described by “that”. So, I'm not sure what you are arguing against here.

> The supreme court idea was never going happen and they knew it.

I don’t think they knew it, just as I don’t think the bknew the traffic court thing was also not going to happen, or the problems with their whole suite of legal (“sue in small claims court”, child custody, divorce) assistance supposedly-AI products were problenatic. I think they jist took the path of boldly striding into a domain they didn’t understand but somehow thought that they could market “AI” for, and ran into unpleasant reality on multiple fronts, forcing not only their scheduled traffic court demo and their hoped-for Supreme Court demo to fail to materialize, but also several of their already-available legal-aid products to be pulled, so that they would focus exclusively on consumer assistance products without as much legal sensitivity.

Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer... by Dylan16807 on Thursday January 26, 2023 @01:02PM (#34535774)
> In the the construction “they tried that, but... ”, the part after “but”, if it identifies an action by the actor and not an outcome, identifies a departure from what is described by “that”. So, I'm not sure what you are arguing against here.

I'm saying the departure is so big that it doesn't make sense to frame it as even a partial solution to the idea.

> I don’t think they knew it, just as I don’t think the bknew the traffic court thing was also not going to happen, or the problems with their whole suite of legal (“sue in small claims court”, child custody, divorce) assistance supposedly-AI products were problenatic.

The combination of supreme court cases being so narrow, the interrogation being so harsh, the tech allowed in being carefully restricted, and the stakes being so high makes me think they would understand the gap between that demo and "find a guy with a parking ticket who happens to be a lawyer".

Re:An AI robot lawyer was set to argue in court. Real lawyer... by LegitShady on Thursday January 26, 2023 @07:56AM (#34531065)
You can't use electronic devices at the supreme court and the consequences for the lawyer for doing so (plus the effects of being questioned by supreme court judges on small details of case law) would probably be pretty dire