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Re:Macroeconomic Changes Have Made It Impossible for Me to W... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @03:15PM (#34523556)
As someone who holds stocks, I see value and appreciate that those corporations work hard to maximize my returns over providing charity employment.

Shareholders like me are the ones you have to convince, not some CEO or abstract concept of a corporation.

Fair warning, you will have to convince me that it is more important than supporting my children and maximizing my retirement.

Re:Macroeconomic Changes Have Made It Impossible for Me to W... by bbzealot on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:19PM (#34524957)
I’m pretty sure that if you need some stock to grow in order to support your children, then your influence on a public company is virtually irrelevant.
Re:Macroeconomic Changes Have Made It Impossible for Me to W... by s1artibartfast on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:29PM (#34525051)
You have a good point on my individual control of a public company is quite small. Luckily, basically every single other stockholder has the same reason for owning the stock as me- making money.

There is basically no risk that a different group of stockholders with more voting power want to run it as a public works jobs program

Re:Macroeconomic Changes Have Made It Impossible for Me to W... by bbzealot on Thursday January 26, 2023 @08:20AM (#34531277)
Yet the fact that shareholders want to get richer doesn’t mean that laying off people when a company is drowning in money is ethically right.
Re:Macroeconomic Changes Have Made It Impossible for Me to W... by s1artibartfast on Thursday January 26, 2023 @10:46AM (#34533174)
If you want to look at it simply in terms of ethics, I'm not sure layoffs are always unethical, even if the company is profitable.

I do think it is unethical to jerk people around (e.g. new hires), but I think generous severance goes a long way towards addressing this.