Re:Google Should Fire Sundar Pichai
by boshalfoshal on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:06AM
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It would be a pretty bold move to announce layoffs in advance and to do it at some convenient time. You are basically asking ip to get stolen by people who think/know they will be laid off, especially if it is out of spite.
I think its more of a precaution than anything.
Re:Google Should Fire Sundar Pichai
by penguinvondoom on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @05:45AM
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Or maybe we need some kind of worker protections, where you can't just get people fired in the middle of the night. Unions and shit...
Re:Google Should Fire Sundar Pichai
by psychphysic on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @07:32AM
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That works, it's just that total compensation is likely to be lower.
It's very likely this guy got a package that's far superior to what many people would have in more secure jobs.
That's been Netflix, Spotify and twitter's play.
Re:Google Should Fire Sundar Pichai
by penguinvondoom on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @09:01AM
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It's only been high due to historic reasons and hype. Business has been on a decades crusade to push down payment for the software labor aristocracy, and to be fair security has nothing to do with it too. There is absolutely no inherent reason why someone should get higher compensation but get a less secure job, beyond the hype for that job, and security should be guaranteed regardless.
> Business has been on a decades crusade to push down payment for the software labor aristocracy
That doesn't seem to be working at all. Or maybe, just maybe there isn't some grand conspiracy.
Re:Google Should Fire Sundar Pichai
by hnaccount141 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @12:25PM
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> That doesn't seem to be working at all. Or maybe, just maybe there isn't some grand conspiracy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
Whose total compensation?
It seems like union jobs pay more [1].
[1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-un...
Re:Google Should Fire Sundar Pichai
by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Friday January 27, 2023 @05:48AM
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I understand both sides of the equation. I absolutely want to keep the level of autonomy a founder has with a start-up, which you will not have with a union, but at certain point, start up stops being an upstart ( Google, Meta come to mind ) so different rules may apply.
But you are right, average compensation tends to up as a result and even out across the ranks ( and some people don't like that too ).
I understand the psychological effect of termination during the night. But rationally thinking, I don’t find any difference to other forms of termination. For the company though, the prompt termination has a much better security prospect.
Being cut off in the night is unfortunately a necessity in the era of people airing their grievances on social media.
Seems to me all these tweets about how company X stabbed you in the back is just making it harder for the individual to find a new job.
Yes you might need to access your savings and push back the early retirement plan, yes you'll need to look at expenses and rationalise. Yes you might not be as employable as you thought.
I don't mean to be callous but if you've just lost your job or will find it harder to find your next one you need to wake up to this reality asap. This too shall pass and we will be back to boom but until then get your life in order.