Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by eterevsky on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:14AM
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It's the responsibility of the user who sells the device to factory reset it.
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Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by veleek on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:18AM
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The problem is when the user who sells it is a business or company who can’t be bothered to unlock the devices.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by waboremo on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:28AM
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Guess this is a good reason for repairers/resellers or buyers to ensure activation status on any Apple device they get their hands on. Easy for repairers/resellers to ensure since they tend to be directly in contact with the company and make it policy. For general buyers, they have to be proactive before making any purchases over an Apple device. As it's easier to contact the seller in question while they are actively selling vs hoping they'll respond post-sale.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by lovich on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:21AM
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The refurbished probably shouldn’t purchase those machines then if it’s a known issue. There’s a tradeoff here, and needing the owner to run a command to reset the machine seems preferable to having them be valuable if stolen
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by benj111 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:34AM
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If it's a known issue? Or if it's a potential issue?
All that will happen is that the second hand value of Apple devices will go down, because recyclers will assume X % are basically scrap.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by lovich on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:55PM
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They’re talking about it to the reporters? How is it not a known issue at this point?
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by benj111 on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @06:09AM
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No I mean if you buy 100 macbooks some will be locked and essentially worthless.
In that case the value of the entire batch will be lower.
So yes it's a known issue. But for each individual MacBook, it's a potential issue.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by guardiangod on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:22AM
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As you said, the problem is with the sellee. Apple is not the problem here.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by widowlark on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:32AM
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Apple designed the system, they are at fault. simple as.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by duxup on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:28AM
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Recycler should make it worth doing for them.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by widowlark on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:45AM
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Ah yes, because they have a massive incentive to do this
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by kemayo on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:07PM
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There's the incentive of "I'm confident that all my private data isn't on this machine any more", which I think matters.
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by widowlark on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:22PM
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this can be accomplished with a disk lock, no need to brick the whole machine
Re:MacBooks from 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Ac...
by kemayo on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:54PM
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Sure, but in terms of how a non-technical user feels, I suspect that "it's still there, but trust me that nobody can access it" isn't as comforting as it just not being there at all. Thus an incentive exists.