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Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by throwaway81523 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @10:59AM (#34505262)
Tweet text: "One of the cool things about Nostr ("Notes and other stuff transmitted by relays", a new decentralized protocol that replaces things like Twitter and Instagram)—beyond censorship resistance—is that you aren't limited to 280 characters."

Sounds like Usenet. What will it do about spam?

Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by jjulius on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:18PM (#34506681)
>What will it do about spam?

It seems that would depend on, or change according to, each individual relay.

>If spam is a concern for a relay, it can require payment for publication or some other form of authentication, such as an email address or phone, and associate these internally with a pubkey that then gets to publish to that relay — or other anti-spam techniques, like hashcash or captchas. If a relay is being used as a spam vector, it can easily be unlisted by clients, which can continue to fetch updates from other relays.[0]

[0] https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr

Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by seanhunter on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:47PM (#34507154)
It will most likely be overwhelmed by spam and scams, like telegram or like usenet itself (sadly). Until I got fed up and deleted telegram, I was randomly added to at least 1 investment scam promotion group every week.
Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by TheLoafOfBread on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @12:56PM (#34507299)
Not necessary to delete it, just limit who can add you to the group

> The default settings allow for this, so you will want to change them. To do so, open the app and head to Settings -> Privacy and Security -> Groups & Channels and check off My Contacts instead of Everybody. You can also exclude specific contacts (or include specific users who aren't in your contacts).

https://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/977460

Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by seanhunter on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @01:00PM (#34507341)
I was getting zero value from the app so it was a joy to delete it tbh. But that's good to hear.
Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by rubatuga on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @01:10PM (#34507493)
They claim to defeat spam, but only mention payments as the way. I am not bullish about nostr
Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by drexlspivey on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:38PM (#34512229)
Proof of work is integrated in the protocol. Either relays or clients can require arbitrary difficulty to relay/show messages. You just drop messages that their hash doesn't start with the required amount of 0s
Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by throwaway81523 on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @07:21PM (#34512590)
That sounds unpromising. Spammers will throw more computational resources than humans are willing to tolerate. They have captcha farms after all. Spammer bot with a server farm (maybe using stolen AWS credentials) will always outcompute a legit user with a mobile phone browser who is only willing to put up with a few seconds of latency.
Re:Edward Snowden Joins Nostr by FreeTrade on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @11:27PM (#34514413)
It's using SHA256 hashing - so ASICs spammers will easily outcompete handhelds or even desktops. It'll need to upgrade to a more CPU friend hash like RandomX for this to have a chance of working.