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Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by goodSteveramos on Monday January 23, 2023 @02:28PM (#34493693)
Exactly. This is how immigration has totally screwed family formation and depressed birth rates for Americans. Young couples cant afford to buy or rent a home in their own city and have to either delay marriage to live with their parents or abandon their families and lifelong friends to move somewhere with lower cost of living. All so employers can go 40 years with giving workers a raise.
Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by mindslight on Monday January 23, 2023 @03:00PM (#34494130)
I had to read these comments twice, because I had assumed the "families" were the immigrants and the "four working adults" were yuppies, both in line with my own experience. It's not immigration that has screwed over family formation - it's the housing racket itself, backed up by oppressive monetary policy that sucks real wealth into the financial industry. Making home ownership into a (guaranteed) investment combined with the individualist ideal of everyone needing their own house has done the equivalent of making everyone start off life with significant debt, and the time to pay it off becomes ever longer.
Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by harvey9 on Monday January 23, 2023 @04:31PM (#34495368)
It's both, at different market segments. Four yuppies (who are sometimes skilled visa-holders) sharing a higher end place, or four less well-off sharers (who are sometimes illegal migrants).
Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by mindslight on Monday January 23, 2023 @05:41PM (#34496154)
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Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by goodSteveramos on Thursday January 26, 2023 @10:55AM (#34533324)
The purpose of a state is not to bring in foreigners to replace the native population. It even rises to a low level UN definition of genocide when the native population is not allowed to express its disapproval of that policy.
Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by mindslight on Friday January 27, 2023 @07:09PM (#34553561)
The "genocide" you speak of is due the general economic policies across the board, which have nothing to do with immigration. Shoehorning the overall problem into a myopic complaint about immigration doesn't accomplish much besides neutralizing your own political stake.
Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by slt2021 on Monday January 23, 2023 @03:18PM (#34494374)
birth is depressed in all developed nations, even those that experience net drain of population (aka negative immigration) for example Baltics and some Easter European countries.

Stop blaming everything on immigrants, pls. You have your own agency, dont play a victim and get your destiny in your own hands.

Immigrant labor is what keeps this country together, all those back breaking jobs that Americans consider themselves too good for and prefer sitting on the welfare/unemployment/etc - these jobs are done by immigrants while being paid peanuts.

Without immigrants the housing would be even more expensive and unaffordable, as well as all other services like plumbing, electricians, fast food/dining, hospitality, etc

Re:US Construction worker productivity has dropped 40% in th... by goodSteveramos on Wednesday January 25, 2023 @04:58PM (#34524733)
>Without immigrants the housing would be even more expensive

And wages would be commensurately higher. The greatest real income increase in America happened between 1940 and 1970 when there was virtually ZERO immigration.