Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by phamilton4 on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:34AM
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TBH I think the average Sr. Developer is ~130k in the US. Of course this varies so much depending on the role and company.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by CydeWeys on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:38AM
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Spotify pays significantly above the average, though. Not as high as the top-tier FANGs, but still high.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by bumby on Monday January 23, 2023 @11:21AM
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The average software developer (not sure that it's pertinent to constraint it to "senior" devs) is $120k in the US. In San Francisco, the median is $161k [1]
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by CydeWeys on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:38AM
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Levels.fyi supports me at least: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/spotify/salaries
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by phamilton4 on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:44AM
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I commented above, whether the salary is 150k, 250k, 500k... the impact doesn't change 0.1%, 0.2%, 0.33%. Not sure it really matters. Again I'm not defending lazy employees or saying employers are bad for doing this. I feel there is a hidden cost of layoffs from my own experience of being at a company doing round after round of layoffs.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by CydeWeys on Monday January 23, 2023 @11:23AM
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Agreed it doesn't matter much in this case, but it is a common misconception that employees don't cost nearly as much to employers as they actually do, so I wanted to step in and correct that.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by pc86 on Monday January 23, 2023 @12:17PM
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I applied for an "entry-level" EM role with Spotify in 2021 and the base was 260-275, plus a generous bonus target and stock. TC would have been pushing $400k, for a fully remote USCAN-based role. I say that strictly as a calibration point - it's unlikely engineers are pushing half a million (maybe at the Staff+ level) but there's also not likely any engineers before $150k TC. I'd expect even mid-levels to be in the $200-225 ballpark but could be wrong.
I think $150k median is probably on the lower side of correct, but not enough to meaningfully impact any of the numbers anyone is discussing here. It's close enough.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by lotsofpulp on Monday January 23, 2023 @12:40PM
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The stock is down by more than half since 2021, and based on their business model and history of profit, as an employee, I would not value the stock portion of compensation much.
As far as I can tell, Apple/Google/Amazon will always provide the ceiling price for how much Spotify can charge its customers, hence capping revenue, and the 3 record labels will always extract just enough to keep Spotify operating.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes
by sarchertech on Monday January 23, 2023 @04:52PM
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That’s what they attempted with podcasts.
Probably not low. It's an enormous salary for a developer outside of the Valley and Spotify has plenty of employees which are not in the USA.