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Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by WastingMyTime89 on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:29AM (#34489947)
> Also I suspect that $150k as the mean TC of those being let go is low.

Probably not low. It's an enormous salary for a developer outside of the Valley and Spotify has plenty of employees which are not in the USA.

Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by phamilton4 on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:34AM (#34490014)
TBH I think the average Sr. Developer is ~130k in the US. Of course this varies so much depending on the role and company.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by CydeWeys on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:38AM (#34490059)
Spotify pays significantly above the average, though. Not as high as the top-tier FANGs, but still high.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by bumby on Monday January 23, 2023 @11:21AM (#34490789)
The average software developer (not sure that it's pertinent to constraint it to "senior" devs) is $120k in the US. In San Francisco, the median is $161k [1]

[1] https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/15-1252.00

Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by CydeWeys on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:38AM (#34490049)
Levels.fyi supports me at least: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/spotify/salaries
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by phamilton4 on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:44AM (#34490137)
I commented above, whether the salary is 150k, 250k, 500k... the impact doesn't change 0.1%, 0.2%, 0.33%. Not sure it really matters. Again I'm not defending lazy employees or saying employers are bad for doing this. I feel there is a hidden cost of layoffs from my own experience of being at a company doing round after round of layoffs.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by CydeWeys on Monday January 23, 2023 @11:23AM (#34490836)
Agreed it doesn't matter much in this case, but it is a common misconception that employees don't cost nearly as much to employers as they actually do, so I wanted to step in and correct that.
Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by pc86 on Monday January 23, 2023 @12:17PM (#34491812)
I applied for an "entry-level" EM role with Spotify in 2021 and the base was 260-275, plus a generous bonus target and stock. TC would have been pushing $400k, for a fully remote USCAN-based role. I say that strictly as a calibration point - it's unlikely engineers are pushing half a million (maybe at the Staff+ level) but there's also not likely any engineers before $150k TC. I'd expect even mid-levels to be in the $200-225 ballpark but could be wrong.

I think $150k median is probably on the lower side of correct, but not enough to meaningfully impact any of the numbers anyone is discussing here. It's close enough.

Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by lotsofpulp on Monday January 23, 2023 @12:40PM (#34492143)
The stock is down by more than half since 2021, and based on their business model and history of profit, as an employee, I would not value the stock portion of compensation much.

As far as I can tell, Apple/Google/Amazon will always provide the ceiling price for how much Spotify can charge its customers, hence capping revenue, and the 3 record labels will always extract just enough to keep Spotify operating.

Re:An Update on January 2023 Organizational Changes by sarchertech on Monday January 23, 2023 @04:52PM (#34495611)
That’s what they attempted with podcasts.