Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by retskrad on Monday January 23, 2023 @08:26AM
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As an Apple customer, I’m looking over the fence and seeing how fast AI is advancing all over the place. Meanwhile, Apple can’t even get basic AI capability right, like autocorrect on the iPhone. How are inventors not worried? Their AI capability is decades behind Meta, Google, Microsoft and the likes of ChatGPT.
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Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by dubcanada on Monday January 23, 2023 @08:41AM
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Apple is not really a AI company, and I doubt they'd ever get it right. They are just waiting with huge pockets for the first one that is decent to buy.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by ellisv on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:43AM
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More likely to ~steal~ copy.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by rvz on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @03:47AM
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> They are just waiting with huge pockets for the first one that is decent to buy.
If Apple was any clever, they would buy a ecosystem of AI tools like HugginFace.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by consumer451 on Monday January 23, 2023 @08:30AM
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Maybe newer versions of iOS have improved, but for a while I at least thought that I could identify when users post comments from iOS simply based on common iOS auto-incorrections which appeared in the comment. Truly embarrassing.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by haint_ on Monday January 23, 2023 @09:22AM
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Siri is just terrible.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by ChildOfChaos on Monday January 23, 2023 @09:23AM
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Apple is in different markets though, it's not in search for example, so this doesn't matter, apple sells the devices that you access the AI from, rather than the services that will require the AI to run, i.e you still use Google on your apple device, so if google changes or loses out, it doesn't matter, you still use your Apple device to access that service.
Apple has already invested in optimising there machines for Stable diffusion for example.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by mrharimau on Monday January 23, 2023 @09:50AM
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Given that the majority of Apple's revenue comes from things like hardware sales and services like the App Store, I doubt there'd be much of an upside if Apple were to develop their AI capabilities since there's not much use it can serve in those areas
This is especially given the amount of investment these other companies have been putting in to get the results that they have, so it seems like it's just a case of it not being worth it to them
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by jameshart on Monday January 23, 2023 @09:59AM
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Apple’s contribution is in things like the ‘neural engine’ architecture in their chips which potentially offers ways to run ML models locally as part of the functionality of software running on your device. That’s probably a much more exciting contribution to widespread adoption of these technologies than a fight between cloud services.
And it’s what is more likely to lead to smarter autocomplete too.
Look at https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/neural-engine-tra... for example.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by lern_too_spel on Monday January 23, 2023 @01:12PM
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All phones have that, and non-Apple phones put it to better use, like completely on-device speech to text, smart replies, and waiting on hold for you.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by amelius on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:11AM
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I would love to implement a decent autocorrect for the iPhone. However, I know that Apple will ban it from their platform when they want, or as soon as they feel the heat of the competition.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by thefourthchime on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:34AM
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You can right now with 3rd party keyboards. Gramerly and Google both have keyboards with better autocorrect.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by msoad on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:40AM
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Funny you mention autocomplete. The iPhone keyboard is a beautiful ML implementation. It runs on device and it is hardware accelerated. When things work users don't notice. Look at how people type of the iPhone. Sometimes they press a few keys away and it figures it out.
Putting a LM like GPT in the autocomplete has a lot of problems. You don't want your keyboard suggest too much. It is a Pandora's box. People will complain how the keyboard is putting words in their mouth.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by hot_gril on Monday January 23, 2023 @06:54PM
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I feel like it was far easier to type on the older iPhones, and there was a whole thread on HN of people with similar experiences. It's not just nostalgia; I still use an iPhone 5 sometimes, and its keyboard is superior. Idk how they regressed like that.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by josh_cutler on Monday January 23, 2023 @10:58AM
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I think it also depends on what you call AI and where you look. They have invested in computational photography, lots of audio work stuff, etc. But mostly in areas that are core to their hardware sales.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by machiaweliczny on Monday January 23, 2023 @12:07PM
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They do something good on hardware side because products like https://www.rewind.ai/ are supposedly possible only on new Mac chips.
Re:ChatGPT killer: Google-owned, UK-born AI startup Deepmind...
by hot_gril on Monday January 23, 2023 @06:50PM
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Investors aren't worried because Apple has shown time and again that they can catch up when needed, often making something more polished than the competition. Apple dominates a market in both software and hardware, and the hardware is the anchor in that vertical integration. It's a huge anti-competitive edge that nobody else has, even Google (though they are trying with the Pixels).