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Re:Japan: The Harbinger State by rwmj on Monday January 23, 2023 @07:32AM (#34488059)
This is the reason often given, but I don't think it's always the true reason. I think people just don't want to live in a house that another family lived in if they have the choice (rental apartments seem to be different).
Re:Japan: The Harbinger State by numpad0 on Monday January 23, 2023 @08:15AM (#34488349)
It's not just regulations and earthquake resistance, thermal and noise insulation too improve over time, following economic growth.
Re:Japan: The Harbinger State by pezezin on Monday January 23, 2023 @05:39PM (#34496133)
My experience living in Japan is that thermal and noise insulation is pretty much non-existent here.
Re:Japan: The Harbinger State by makeitdouble on Monday January 23, 2023 @07:00PM (#34496962)
It costs a bunch. Renting a reasonably priced standard room in Tokyo won't land such perks.

Going up to family size appartments in recently built middle-class complexes will usually come with pretty good insulation and you won't hear a baby crying at top volume.

Re:Japan: The Harbinger State by pezezin on Tuesday January 24, 2023 @06:53AM (#34502457)
The sad thing is that I live in Aomori, and the construction quality here is abysmal. I would understand the lack of proper insulation in warmer areas, but in Tohoku and Hokkaido?

And don't get me started on the lack of proper central heating and the use of the stupid portable kerosene heaters. Today I heard from a guy who is working for the village office that the most common emergency call now in winter are from elder people who suffered thermal shock inside their own houses when walking from a warm room to an almost frozen room.

Re:Japan: The Harbinger State by makeitdouble on Monday January 23, 2023 @09:51AM (#34489401)
Earthquakes’ influence isn’t just about when they happen. I might be hard to visualize but the actual structure and materials need to change to adapt.

For instance in europe lead pipes were widely used for the internal plumbing and nowadays it’s replaced by rigid and pretty durable polymers. The plumbing goes into the walls, floors, etc. to each place where water goes.

Except that doesn’t work if your walls and floor can shake. You don’t want pipes break into your walls and leak internally. So pipes can’t be rigid, and you’ll have to compromise on durability for flexibility.

When buying an appartment, our plumbing was rated for 30 years. After that, even if everything else is in a perfect state, we’d all have to tear down the building walls and change the plumbing. It can be done, but cost wise it’s not so far from rebuilding from scratch.

Public buildings get away with way longer life by either paying for way more expensive techniques, and/or having the plumbing and any other things that could need inspection or maintenance put outside the walls. It works great, but is ugly as fuck and can have other practical issues (all pipes being exposed has weird safety issues, some europeans house do that and it’s really not great)

And that’s just plumbing.

PS: the second hand housing market is actually super healthy. In particular you get to see how the buildings and neighbors are doing after a few years, and the risk of a bad surprise is that much lower.

PS2: you can live longer than 30y in a house/appartment. Its value just plummets, except if you prove you made all the recommended updates to extend its useful life. It’s basically the same as keeping a car for 40 years. It can be done, but it’s not the generic nor recommended use case.